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Apple's entire being seems to be against allowing the customer any control at all. Maybe it was different years ago but every Apple product I've touched has bee

by mhh__ 5y ago

Apple's entire being seems to be against allowing the customer any control at all. Maybe it was different years ago but every Apple product I've touched has been a very pretty prison (which isn't necessarily a bad thing)

nojito 5y ago
>Apple's entire being seems to be against allowing the customer any control at all. If customers were right we would have never had touchscreen phones.
- mhh__ 5y ago
  OK but when can I run gcc on my ipad
- smoldesu 5y ago
  If Steve Jobs was right we'd still be holding it wrong.
- rowanG077 5y ago
  How great would that have been. Touchscreens have been one of the greatest setbacks in computing history. This comment was typed on a touchscreen.
dijit 5y ago
I seem to recall, though I can't find it: Steve Jobs (while working at NeXt) talking about Apple and the different people vying for control of the company. He said (and I'm paraphrasing of course) that there are people who really want to push computing forward, and there are people who want to be like Sony and make an integrated commodity. He said that there's a marriage between the two that could be had "but sadly the Sony guys are winning". I'm not an apologist for Jobs, I don't really care for the man enough to love _or_ hate him the way most seem to, but I believe he was as much a product of the company values as anyone else was. I'm considered to be very hard nosed and pushing the direction of my company forward and often I clash with people, and granted, I'm not at the top of the company, but the people around me still shape my mentality a lot.
- mixmastamyk 5y ago
  I didn't understand the Sony comparison.
  - dijit 5y ago
    Sony makes and sells an experience, they are a premium product provider that is pushing standards and doing things “the Sony way”. That’s how I took it at least.

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Apple's entire being seems to be against allowing the customer any control at all. Maybe it was different years ago but every Apple product I've touched has bee

by mhh__ 5y ago

nojito 5y ago
>Apple's entire being seems to be against allowing the customer any control at all. If customers were right we would have never had touchscreen phones.
- mhh__ 5y ago
  OK but when can I run gcc on my ipad
- smoldesu 5y ago
  If Steve Jobs was right we'd still be holding it wrong.
- rowanG077 5y ago
  How great would that have been. Touchscreens have been one of the greatest setbacks in computing history. This comment was typed on a touchscreen.
dijit 5y ago
I seem to recall, though I can't find it: Steve Jobs (while working at NeXt) talking about Apple and the different people vying for control of the company. He said (and I'm paraphrasing of course) that there are people who really want to push computing forward, and there are people who want to be like Sony and make an integrated commodity. He said that there's a marriage between the two that could be had "but sadly the Sony guys are winning". I'm not an apologist for Jobs, I don't really care for the man enough to love _or_ hate him the way most seem to, but I believe he was as much a product of the company values as anyone else was. I'm considered to be very hard nosed and pushing the direction of my company forward and often I clash with people, and granted, I'm not at the top of the company, but the people around me still shape my mentality a lot.
- mixmastamyk 5y ago
  I didn't understand the Sony comparison.
  - dijit 5y ago
    Sony makes and sells an experience, they are a premium product provider that is pushing standards and doing things “the Sony way”. That’s how I took it at least.