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Keyboards aren't just about memory, they are a lot slower then the mouse if you don't have almost instinctive muscle memory. Muscle memory is always instinctiv

• felideon 18y ago
  Muscle memory is always instinctive, it's hardwired in the human brain. Indeed. It's like walking. You don't think you are walking, you just walk. Everybody can teach his/her muscles to act "on their own" for a task as simple as this without that much practice. I'm not sure how you can teach one's muscles to act "on their own" without too much practice. Maybe if one were trained by injection, Matrix style. :)
  • ptn 18y ago
    You need practise to nail something, but not that much as one would think. Once you learn to do it, the extra practise is for speed (take guitar/keyboard playing, for example). I guess you could argue that without some speed, you can't really say you've learned something (what's the point in playing "Voodoo Child" at snailpace?), but the threshold is still there.
  • stcredzero 18y ago
    I remember when I was jockeying my Dad's Apple II+ in grade school. I got to typing "catalog" very quickly. So quickly, that I doubt I was conscious of placing each individual finger. I wonder if mouse + keyboard input could be augmented by head gestures? NaturalPoint sells an economic mouse that can be operated by placing a reflective dot on a pair of glasses or a hat. What if instead of being a mouse, this could be an entirely alternate input device? You could read head gestures in the same way that the Wiimote detects different movements. These gestures would likely become "muscle memory."
    • byrneseyeview 18y ago
      One thing that is pretty annoying about GUIs is the fuzzy factor: there are often a few pixels that could be the button, and could be the background, but you can't tell which it is for sure -- so they're effectively off limits. A keyboard doesn't have this issue, so it's a lot easier to turn commands into reflexes -- your reflexes are less likely to be wrong. This is also why I switched from T9 to whatever the other alphabet-entering system is for cell phones: it was just too frustrating not to know exactly what the output would be if I typed quickly.
    • soldarnal 18y ago
      I'm amazed, too, how certain words I have "over-learned" to type. For instance, it's almost impossible for me to type the word "create" without adding a 'd' to the end unless I make a concious effort to avoid it. I also typed "amazing" in my first sentence before quickly backing out the "ing" (freudian slip of my ego?). I wonder how this over-learning might be related to reading behavior. I'm sure we've all seen those sentences where the author transposes the middle characters of each word while leaving the first and last characters the same; the sentence is suprisingly not difficult to read. Maybe in the same way our brain has a "good-enough" pattern matching behavior while reading, it quickly recognizes the pattern of the word we're typing and says, "I know this one, I'll take it from here."
    • shiro 18y ago
      Some graphics applications (like 3D modeling package) have pie-chart like menu system; for example, if you type SPACE, an overlayed menu appears around the mouse cursor and just moving a mouse a bit to that direction and release SPACE triggers that item (you don't even click). Watching the experienced users using that interface is just amazing. They don't read the menu items; they know which direction is what by heart, probably in muscle memory.
• bdotdub 18y ago
  I think the trick is to forget about "practising" and just do it. If the command is really helpful, you'll end up using a lot anyway, but the mindset is different (forced practise vs need). I wholeheartedly agree. I have become a 'keyboardist', as it were, just by using what I needed. If you find a shortcut for something you use often, eventually you'll get used to using it, not because you want to, but because it'll feel natural to.