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> In celebration of Steve Job’s life and his inspiration to many, I wanted to show a passion project I’ve been working on that I think Steve would be proud of.

> In celebration of Steve Job’s life and his inspiration to many, I wanted to show a passion project I’ve been working on that I think Steve would be proud of. Something that wasn’t possible 20 years ago but is now. Steve Jobs didn't strike me as the kind of person who'd be proud of a fan doing something like this.

908B64B197 5y ago
There's an other Steve at Apple who loves that kind of tinkering however.
- st_goliath 5y ago
  > There's an other Steve at Apple ... *There Woz Assuming you mean Wozniak, who left in 1985[1]. Then again, the company is big enough, I cannot exclude the existence of other Steves[2], some of whom might like this kind of tinkering. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak#Final_departure_from_Apple_workforce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak#Final_departure_... [2] https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneSteveLimit https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneSteveLimit
  - sgt 5y ago
    Wozniak is actually still an Apple employee.
    - BitwiseFool 5y ago
      I'm pretty sure Woz mentioned in an interview that he still "reports to Steve" on the Org Chart. Edit: "Based on the last Apple organizational chart that he was aware of, Wozniak said that he still reported to Jobs." https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/18/steve-wozniak-still-on-apple-payroll-jokes-he-still-reports-to-jobs.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/18/steve-wozniak-still-on-apple...
mhh__ 5y ago
Apple's entire being seems to be against allowing the customer any control at all. Maybe it was different years ago but every Apple product I've touched has been a very pretty prison (which isn't necessarily a bad thing)
- nojito 5y ago
  >Apple's entire being seems to be against allowing the customer any control at all. If customers were right we would have never had touchscreen phones.
  - mhh__ 5y ago
    OK but when can I run gcc on my ipad
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    If Steve Jobs was right we'd still be holding it wrong.
  - rowanG077 5y ago
    How great would that have been. Touchscreens have been one of the greatest setbacks in computing history. This comment was typed on a touchscreen.
- dijit 5y ago
  I seem to recall, though I can't find it: Steve Jobs (while working at NeXt) talking about Apple and the different people vying for control of the company. He said (and I'm paraphrasing of course) that there are people who really want to push computing forward, and there are people who want to be like Sony and make an integrated commodity. He said that there's a marriage between the two that could be had "but sadly the Sony guys are winning". I'm not an apologist for Jobs, I don't really care for the man enough to love _or_ hate him the way most seem to, but I believe he was as much a product of the company values as anyone else was. I'm considered to be very hard nosed and pushing the direction of my company forward and often I clash with people, and granted, I'm not at the top of the company, but the people around me still shape my mentality a lot.
rahoulb 5y ago
Then again, he made his start dismantling phone kit and making free long distance calls just to find out how it all worked
- deleted 5y ago
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- tablespoon 5y ago
  > Then again, he made his start dismantling phone kit and making free long distance calls just to find out how it all worked Are you talking about this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_box https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_box: > Blue box designed and built by Steve Wozniak and sold by Steve Jobs before they founded Apple. Displayed at the Powerhouse Museum, from the collection of the Computer History Museum[1] Also: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/02/the-definitive-story-of-steve-wozniak-steve-jobs-and-phone-phreaking/273331/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/02/the-d... If so, you might have your Apple Computer Steves mixed up.
  - reaperducer 5y ago
    Blue boxes were around long before Woz made his. Also red boxes, pink boxes, black boxes, yellow boxes, and a few others. Each had its purpose. /Former phreaker and cypherpunk
hinkley 5y ago
There was an anniversary edition over ten years ago, but the last time a decade passed by they didn't seem to do anything special. Might have something to do with how much money they make off of non-Mac sales, or maybe Steve was super enthused and everyone else was just humoring him. I suspect the headache of managing a low-volume specialty product is substantial.
- djxfade 5y ago
  *over twenty years ago
- drewzero1 5y ago
  I think you're thinking of the Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh, released in spring 1997 a few months before Steve Jobs came back as CEO. He reportedly hated the computer[1] and canceled it soon after he came back[2]. [1] https://www.engadget.com/2009-03-20-remembering-the-tam.html https://www.engadget.com/2009-03-20-remembering-the-tam.html [2] https://www.fastcompany.com/3066213/the-one-jony-ive-computer-apple-didnt-include-in-its-monograph https://www.fastcompany.com/3066213/the-one-jony-ive-compute...

908B64B197 5y ago

There's an other Steve at Apple who loves that kind of tinkering however.

st_goliath 5y ago
> There's an other Steve at Apple ... *There Woz Assuming you mean Wozniak, who left in 1985[1]. Then again, the company is big enough, I cannot exclude the existence of other Steves[2], some of whom might like this kind of tinkering. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak#Final_departure_from_Apple_workforce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak#Final_departure_... [2] https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneSteveLimit https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneSteveLimit
- sgt 5y ago
  Wozniak is actually still an Apple employee.
  - BitwiseFool 5y ago
    I'm pretty sure Woz mentioned in an interview that he still "reports to Steve" on the Org Chart. Edit: "Based on the last Apple organizational chart that he was aware of, Wozniak said that he still reported to Jobs." https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/18/steve-wozniak-still-on-apple-payroll-jokes-he-still-reports-to-jobs.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/18/steve-wozniak-still-on-apple...

mhh__ 5y ago

Apple's entire being seems to be against allowing the customer any control at all. Maybe it was different years ago but every Apple product I've touched has been a very pretty prison (which isn't necessarily a bad thing)

nojito 5y ago
>Apple's entire being seems to be against allowing the customer any control at all. If customers were right we would have never had touchscreen phones.
- mhh__ 5y ago
  OK but when can I run gcc on my ipad
- smoldesu 5y ago
  If Steve Jobs was right we'd still be holding it wrong.
- rowanG077 5y ago
  How great would that have been. Touchscreens have been one of the greatest setbacks in computing history. This comment was typed on a touchscreen.
dijit 5y ago
I seem to recall, though I can't find it: Steve Jobs (while working at NeXt) talking about Apple and the different people vying for control of the company. He said (and I'm paraphrasing of course) that there are people who really want to push computing forward, and there are people who want to be like Sony and make an integrated commodity. He said that there's a marriage between the two that could be had "but sadly the Sony guys are winning". I'm not an apologist for Jobs, I don't really care for the man enough to love _or_ hate him the way most seem to, but I believe he was as much a product of the company values as anyone else was. I'm considered to be very hard nosed and pushing the direction of my company forward and often I clash with people, and granted, I'm not at the top of the company, but the people around me still shape my mentality a lot.

rahoulb 5y ago

Then again, he made his start dismantling phone kit and making free long distance calls just to find out how it all worked

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tablespoon 5y ago
> Then again, he made his start dismantling phone kit and making free long distance calls just to find out how it all worked Are you talking about this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_box https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_box: > Blue box designed and built by Steve Wozniak and sold by Steve Jobs before they founded Apple. Displayed at the Powerhouse Museum, from the collection of the Computer History Museum[1] Also: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/02/the-definitive-story-of-steve-wozniak-steve-jobs-and-phone-phreaking/273331/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/02/the-d... If so, you might have your Apple Computer Steves mixed up.
- reaperducer 5y ago
  Blue boxes were around long before Woz made his. Also red boxes, pink boxes, black boxes, yellow boxes, and a few others. Each had its purpose. /Former phreaker and cypherpunk

hinkley 5y ago

There was an anniversary edition over ten years ago, but the last time a decade passed by they didn't seem to do anything special. Might have something to do with how much money they make off of non-Mac sales, or maybe Steve was super enthused and everyone else was just humoring him. I suspect the headache of managing a low-volume specialty product is substantial.

djxfade 5y ago
*over twenty years ago
drewzero1 5y ago
I think you're thinking of the Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh, released in spring 1997 a few months before Steve Jobs came back as CEO. He reportedly hated the computer[1] and canceled it soon after he came back[2]. [1] https://www.engadget.com/2009-03-20-remembering-the-tam.html https://www.engadget.com/2009-03-20-remembering-the-tam.html [2] https://www.fastcompany.com/3066213/the-one-jony-ive-computer-apple-didnt-include-in-its-monograph https://www.fastcompany.com/3066213/the-one-jony-ive-compute...