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My post was exactly what GP was doing here. He couldn't talk about the article posted without bringing in some neo nazi fantasy he had. I simply changed the wor

My post was exactly what GP was doing here. He couldn't talk about the article posted without bringing in some neo nazi fantasy he had. I simply changed the words he spouted and it fit perfectly with what he is doing. Reddit bans anything "far right" (whatever that means) that gets popular. Extremist used to mean terrorist, now it's used for people you don't align with politically. No one on [Patriots . win] is an extremist, but I'm sure you'd say they were.

dymk 5y ago
That seems fair game to bring up though, because this is a thread discussing the site as a whole, and not about a TV show. And the pattern of reddit clones hosting exclusively far-right ~~~extremist~~~ (edit: I'll replace this with "leaning") content while reddit itself is far more diverse is an interesting observation.
- hunterb123 5y ago
  I dunno, go look through any popular subreddit and it's all about "extreme" leftist politics, even /r/funny, etc. But sure, some fantasy about neo nazis discussing tv shows that I'm sure GP totally saw and didn't just make up is relevant. I guess my point is, yes, it can happen but it happens on both sides. Mostly, people just want a nice place to hang out amongst their like minded peers, and no that doesn't mean discussing Jews 24/7 believe it or not. GP talks like someone who has never talked with someone on the other "side". We're all people, stop dehumanizing the other political spectrum because you don't understand them. tldr: the most extreme people on the right probably discuss Soros/Jews as much as the most extreme people on the left discuss Trump/MAGA. That doesn't represent anyone else.
  - dtjb 5y ago
    wait, patriots.win isn't extremist but r/funny is?
    - hunterb123 5y ago
      extremist != extreme extreme is used to denote it's a far swing in the spectrum, extremist alludes to terrorism.
      - shkkmo 5y ago
        While "extremist" might have connatations of violence/terrorism, those connotations are not inherent in the meaning of the word. I would argue that it behooves us to push back against such a connotation because it really only serves to delegitimize people who don't have mainstream beliefs by implying that they intend violence without having to justify an actually disprovable statement.
        hunterb123 5y ago
        Sure. I don't like the word, most of my argument is infact arguing against the use of the word "extremist". I only used it once in response and I used "extreme" elsewhere which is fine to use when denoting where they are in the spectrum of the political ideology.
        shkkmo 5y ago
        You explicitly upgraded the terrorism connotation to being part of the meaning by using it to draw a distinction between the two words categorical referents. Instead I think you should have directly questioned whether the connotation of violence was part of the point you were responding to.
        hunterb123 5y ago
        Okay so would you like the criteria for all site's users to be a "connotation of violence" to meet the extremist threshold? That is even looser than wishing death and would cover many more communities. Let's clear things up by a simple question: How do you define "extremist"?
timcederman 5y ago
> No one on [Patriots . win] is an extremist, but I'm sure you'd say they were. Seriously?
- hunterb123 5y ago
  Yes, "seriously". How about for fun you try to explain what an extremist is? We'll go from there.
pgeorgi 5y ago
The good thing about "no one on $site is an extremist" is that there's a pretty clear way to disprove it: find one specimen. https://patriots.win/p/13zg9agFHB/instead-of-eliminating-hundreds-/c/ https://patriots.win/p/13zg9agFHB/instead-of-eliminating-hun... promotes some myth about "the government wanting to eliminate 1e6 to 1e9 american workers" and proposes to "eliminate politicians" instead. Comments by the OP in that thread clarify the direction this is supposed to take, responding to "The swamp in one picture" with "One Drone Strike". Textbook extremism. (edit to add: or, as hunterb123 asserts, an edge lord. Since I don't know the site or user but hunterb123 apparently does, I'll take them by their word.)
- hunterb123 5y ago
  your definition of an extremist is certainly lax isn't it? I'd designate someone an extremist if they were plotting to do something, not some edgy comment that you'd find anywhere. There's hundreds of comments on reddit wishing death, that doesn't make those people "extremists".
  - pgeorgi 5y ago
    Ah, the edgelord defense, a Tried and True practice. One issue is that the entire thread is _only_ edgelords in that model. I couldn't find anybody on that page speaking out against the ideas espoused by the poster. As for "comment that you'd find anywhere", I know a few places where I wouldn't find such comments. Not because oh-the-oppression, but because people don't engage with them in the same way as on that page. It's possible shape a culture and that site seems to have chosen one that is easily being mistaken for extremism, at the very least.
    - hunterb123 5y ago
      On Reddit they have an entire subreddit for making fun of people's death. Reddit is the edgelord's gala. Anytime a Republican got sick, they'd wish for them to die throughout the front page.
      - 5y ago

dymk 5y ago

That seems fair game to bring up though, because this is a thread discussing the site as a whole, and not about a TV show. And the pattern of reddit clones hosting exclusively far-right ~~~extremist~~~ (edit: I'll replace this with "leaning") content while reddit itself is far more diverse is an interesting observation.

hunterb123 5y ago
I dunno, go look through any popular subreddit and it's all about "extreme" leftist politics, even /r/funny, etc. But sure, some fantasy about neo nazis discussing tv shows that I'm sure GP totally saw and didn't just make up is relevant. I guess my point is, yes, it can happen but it happens on both sides. Mostly, people just want a nice place to hang out amongst their like minded peers, and no that doesn't mean discussing Jews 24/7 believe it or not. GP talks like someone who has never talked with someone on the other "side". We're all people, stop dehumanizing the other political spectrum because you don't understand them. tldr: the most extreme people on the right probably discuss Soros/Jews as much as the most extreme people on the left discuss Trump/MAGA. That doesn't represent anyone else.
- dtjb 5y ago
  wait, patriots.win isn't extremist but r/funny is?
  - hunterb123 5y ago
    extremist != extreme extreme is used to denote it's a far swing in the spectrum, extremist alludes to terrorism.
    - shkkmo 5y ago
      While "extremist" might have connatations of violence/terrorism, those connotations are not inherent in the meaning of the word. I would argue that it behooves us to push back against such a connotation because it really only serves to delegitimize people who don't have mainstream beliefs by implying that they intend violence without having to justify an actually disprovable statement.
      - hunterb123 5y ago
        Sure. I don't like the word, most of my argument is infact arguing against the use of the word "extremist". I only used it once in response and I used "extreme" elsewhere which is fine to use when denoting where they are in the spectrum of the political ideology.
        shkkmo 5y ago
        You explicitly upgraded the terrorism connotation to being part of the meaning by using it to draw a distinction between the two words categorical referents. Instead I think you should have directly questioned whether the connotation of violence was part of the point you were responding to.
        hunterb123 5y ago
        Okay so would you like the criteria for all site's users to be a "connotation of violence" to meet the extremist threshold? That is even looser than wishing death and would cover many more communities. Let's clear things up by a simple question: How do you define "extremist"?

timcederman 5y ago

> No one on [Patriots . win] is an extremist, but I'm sure you'd say they were. Seriously?

hunterb123 5y ago
Yes, "seriously". How about for fun you try to explain what an extremist is? We'll go from there.

pgeorgi 5y ago

The good thing about "no one on $site is an extremist" is that there's a pretty clear way to disprove it: find one specimen. https://patriots.win/p/13zg9agFHB/instead-of-eliminating-hundreds-/c/ https://patriots.win/p/13zg9agFHB/instead-of-eliminating-hun... promotes some myth about "the government wanting to eliminate 1e6 to 1e9 american workers" and proposes to "eliminate politicians" instead. Comments by the OP in that thread clarify the direction this is supposed to take, responding to "The swamp in one picture" with "One Drone Strike". Textbook extremism. (edit to add: or, as hunterb123 asserts, an edge lord. Since I don't know the site or user but hunterb123 apparently does, I'll take them by their word.)

hunterb123 5y ago
your definition of an extremist is certainly lax isn't it? I'd designate someone an extremist if they were plotting to do something, not some edgy comment that you'd find anywhere. There's hundreds of comments on reddit wishing death, that doesn't make those people "extremists".
- pgeorgi 5y ago
  Ah, the edgelord defense, a Tried and True practice. One issue is that the entire thread is _only_ edgelords in that model. I couldn't find anybody on that page speaking out against the ideas espoused by the poster. As for "comment that you'd find anywhere", I know a few places where I wouldn't find such comments. Not because oh-the-oppression, but because people don't engage with them in the same way as on that page. It's possible shape a culture and that site seems to have chosen one that is easily being mistaken for extremism, at the very least.
  - hunterb123 5y ago
    On Reddit they have an entire subreddit for making fun of people's death. Reddit is the edgelord's gala. Anytime a Republican got sick, they'd wish for them to die throughout the front page.
    - 5y ago