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Are we going to pretend that there are really more searches for C and Visual Basic than for Javascript? I don’t know what they’re measuring exactly and how but

by jstx1 5y ago

Are we going to pretend that there are really more searches for C and Visual Basic than for Javascript? I don’t know what they’re measuring exactly and how but on the surface it doesn’t pass the smell test. edit: Here's the actual method - https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programming-languages-definition/ https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programming-languages-defi.... It doesn't count searches.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> Are we going to pretend that there are really more searches for C and Visual Basic than for Javascript? Probably. A lot of things I would add the language name to while searching for another language I qiickly learned tagging MDN on instead gets the best JS info, and once on MDN, navigating between topics rather than doing a new search for a related topic os much more common than the haphazard set of resources that you end up with for many languages. Of course, that's a minor reason among the vast number of reasons why number of web searches explicitly targeting the language is a horrible measure of language popularity or impact.
- jstx1 5y ago
  They don't even count searches (i.e. traffic), they count hits from searches in a number of popular engines - https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programming-languages-definition/ https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programming-languages-defi... > The ratings are calculated by counting hits of the most popular search engines. The search query that is used is +"<language> programming". The number of hits determines the ratings of a language.
lr1970 5y ago
Whatever they do TIOBE Index methodology is flawed. MATLAB at #13 ahead of Ruby #16 and Swift #17 makes no sense. MATLAB is a niche language popular mostly among Electrical and Mechanical Engineers while Ruby and Swift are general purpose and have much larger user and project base.

by jstx1 5y ago

dragonwriter 5y ago

> Are we going to pretend that there are really more searches for C and Visual Basic than for Javascript? Probably. A lot of things I would add the language name to while searching for another language I qiickly learned tagging MDN on instead gets the best JS info, and once on MDN, navigating between topics rather than doing a new search for a related topic os much more common than the haphazard set of resources that you end up with for many languages. Of course, that's a minor reason among the vast number of reasons why number of web searches explicitly targeting the language is a horrible measure of language popularity or impact.

jstx1 5y ago
They don't even count searches (i.e. traffic), they count hits from searches in a number of popular engines - https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programming-languages-definition/ https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programming-languages-defi... > The ratings are calculated by counting hits of the most popular search engines. The search query that is used is +"<language> programming". The number of hits determines the ratings of a language.

lr1970 5y ago

Whatever they do TIOBE Index methodology is flawed. MATLAB at #13 ahead of Ruby #16 and Swift #17 makes no sense. MATLAB is a niche language popular mostly among Electrical and Mechanical Engineers while Ruby and Swift are general purpose and have much larger user and project base.