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Your proposal presupposes that their decision-making is grounded in fact. It is not. Data and evidence have no bearing on their mindset. There will always be a

by NamTaf 5y ago

Your proposal presupposes that their decision-making is grounded in fact. It is not. Data and evidence have no bearing on their mindset. There will always be a more creative justification as to why it's the wrong thing in their mind. The goal posts will always move.

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hunterb123 5y ago
Thank you for mind reading 2200 people.
listenallyall 5y ago
"The goal posts will always move" ... you're right about that! I think I remember, two weeks to stop the spread
- hunterb123 5y ago
  2 weeks to flatten the curve! 90% to herd immunity! 100% vaccinated or else! goal posts are fun!
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- jasonlaramburu 5y ago
  >"The goal posts will always move" ... you're right about that! I think I remember, two weeks to stop the spread The COVID-19 pandemic is an unprecedented event in our lifetime. Is it better to have a leader who modifies her approach as new information becomes available, or one who stubbornly sticks to the same plan when it has clearly failed?
  - hunterb123 5y ago
    ah yes, adaptation to science when I do it, goal post moving when others do it. maybe those other people adapted to new facts coming in such as side effects of the vaccine and already contracting covid and decided not to get it.
    - jasonlaramburu 5y ago
      >ah yes, adaptation to science when I do it, goal post moving when others do it. Parent mentioned moving goal posts, not I. >maybe those other people adapted to new facts coming in such as side effects of the vaccine and already contracting covid and decided not to get it. The facts show that vaccine side effects are generally mild, vaccination reduces transmission by 5X or more and that natural immunity offers inferior protection to vaccination. If you have convincing evidence showing otherwise, I encourage you to present it.
      - hunterb123 5y ago
        natural immunity offers greater protection than the vaccine, you're thinking of combined vaccine + natural immunity. vaccine side effects range from mild to death. https://openvaers.com/covid-data https://openvaers.com/covid-data
        SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
        OpenVaers is a public reporting tool - anyone can type data into there. Unfiltered, it is basically junk, and claiming it as data against the COVID-19 vaccines is dishonest scaremongering. https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/scicheck-viral-posts-misuse-vaers-data-to-make-false-claims-about-covid-19-vaccines/ https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/scicheck-viral-posts-misus...
        hunterb123 5y ago
        Hospitals directly report to VAERS as well. We've had this system in place for a reason, you need a way to track anecdotal reactions in individuals that suffer extreme reactions or death that were otherwise healthy. There's countless instances of healthy people dying right after the shot, doesn't matter if you wish it away. Yes it may be a small amount percentage wise, but the more you scale the more absolute deaths you get.

by NamTaf 5y ago

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hunterb123 5y ago

Thank you for mind reading 2200 people.

listenallyall 5y ago

"The goal posts will always move" ... you're right about that! I think I remember, two weeks to stop the spread

hunterb123 5y ago
2 weeks to flatten the curve! 90% to herd immunity! 100% vaccinated or else! goal posts are fun!
- deleted 5y ago
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jasonlaramburu 5y ago
>"The goal posts will always move" ... you're right about that! I think I remember, two weeks to stop the spread The COVID-19 pandemic is an unprecedented event in our lifetime. Is it better to have a leader who modifies her approach as new information becomes available, or one who stubbornly sticks to the same plan when it has clearly failed?
- hunterb123 5y ago
  ah yes, adaptation to science when I do it, goal post moving when others do it. maybe those other people adapted to new facts coming in such as side effects of the vaccine and already contracting covid and decided not to get it.
  - jasonlaramburu 5y ago
    >ah yes, adaptation to science when I do it, goal post moving when others do it. Parent mentioned moving goal posts, not I. >maybe those other people adapted to new facts coming in such as side effects of the vaccine and already contracting covid and decided not to get it. The facts show that vaccine side effects are generally mild, vaccination reduces transmission by 5X or more and that natural immunity offers inferior protection to vaccination. If you have convincing evidence showing otherwise, I encourage you to present it.
    - hunterb123 5y ago
      natural immunity offers greater protection than the vaccine, you're thinking of combined vaccine + natural immunity. vaccine side effects range from mild to death. https://openvaers.com/covid-data https://openvaers.com/covid-data
      - SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
        OpenVaers is a public reporting tool - anyone can type data into there. Unfiltered, it is basically junk, and claiming it as data against the COVID-19 vaccines is dishonest scaremongering. https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/scicheck-viral-posts-misuse-vaers-data-to-make-false-claims-about-covid-19-vaccines/ https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/scicheck-viral-posts-misus...
        hunterb123 5y ago
        Hospitals directly report to VAERS as well. We've had this system in place for a reason, you need a way to track anecdotal reactions in individuals that suffer extreme reactions or death that were otherwise healthy. There's countless instances of healthy people dying right after the shot, doesn't matter if you wish it away. Yes it may be a small amount percentage wise, but the more you scale the more absolute deaths you get.