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I count Brave's emphasis on crypto as a pro and necessary for our hopefully one day ad-less future. If you block ads without allowing the ability to donate a t

I count Brave's emphasis on crypto as a pro and necessary for our hopefully one day ad-less future. If you block ads without allowing the ability to donate a token you are effectively stealing from site owners and causing the rise of paywalls and other restrictions on the internet.

StevePerkins 5y ago
Putting aside legitimate qualms about Brave’s ad blocking business model, “skeezy” refers to Brave themselves showing me by default multiple home screen ads for various crypto wallet and NFT brokers. Opinions vary wildly on HN, but for me that entire scene is kissing cousins with MLM.
- hunterb123 5y ago
  Yeah affiliates is how they make money. You can hide all that stuff, but it's a good way to support them if you buy crypto often. Beats being the product using Google, or having a product fall behind like Mozilla because you had to fire all of your engineers.
- celsoazevedo 5y ago
  > Putting aside legitimate qualms about Brave’s ad blocking business model The other alternatives to Chrome (Edge, Opera, Vivaldi, and Firefox[0]) also come with a built in ad blocker. Is it only a problem because on top of the blocking - which others also do - they also have the ads/crypto business? --- [0] On Firefox it's more of a "tracking blocker", but things like Adsense are blocked by it.
Ransid 5y ago
"If you block ads without allowing the ability to donate a token you are effectively stealing from site owners and causing the rise of paywalls and other restrictions on the internet." No
- hunterb123 5y ago
  Great rebuttal buddy. Sites costs money, users need a way to pay site owners.
jmnicolas 5y ago
> you are effectively stealing from site owners This is "you wouldn't download a car" level argument.
- hunterb123 5y ago
  Maybe I could have phrased it better, but the point is site resources cost money. If no one is viewing the site, it probably doesn't cost anything. Once people start using the site, it starts costing resources to run it. Currently, there's two ways to pay for those resources, ads or subscriptions. BAT allows you to easily take tips and continue the service for free that people expect, without ads.

StevePerkins 5y ago

Putting aside legitimate qualms about Brave’s ad blocking business model, “skeezy” refers to Brave themselves showing me by default multiple home screen ads for various crypto wallet and NFT brokers. Opinions vary wildly on HN, but for me that entire scene is kissing cousins with MLM.

hunterb123 5y ago
Yeah affiliates is how they make money. You can hide all that stuff, but it's a good way to support them if you buy crypto often. Beats being the product using Google, or having a product fall behind like Mozilla because you had to fire all of your engineers.
celsoazevedo 5y ago
> Putting aside legitimate qualms about Brave’s ad blocking business model The other alternatives to Chrome (Edge, Opera, Vivaldi, and Firefox[0]) also come with a built in ad blocker. Is it only a problem because on top of the blocking - which others also do - they also have the ads/crypto business? --- [0] On Firefox it's more of a "tracking blocker", but things like Adsense are blocked by it.

Ransid 5y ago

"If you block ads without allowing the ability to donate a token you are effectively stealing from site owners and causing the rise of paywalls and other restrictions on the internet." No

hunterb123 5y ago
Great rebuttal buddy. Sites costs money, users need a way to pay site owners.

jmnicolas 5y ago

> you are effectively stealing from site owners This is "you wouldn't download a car" level argument.

hunterb123 5y ago
Maybe I could have phrased it better, but the point is site resources cost money. If no one is viewing the site, it probably doesn't cost anything. Once people start using the site, it starts costing resources to run it. Currently, there's two ways to pay for those resources, ads or subscriptions. BAT allows you to easily take tips and continue the service for free that people expect, without ads.