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vim - is not my tool of trade, I am developer so I prefer IDEs like Intellij for coding and for config files I will use kate for local and for remote nano will

vim - is not my tool of trade, I am developer so I prefer IDEs like Intellij for coding and for config files I will use kate for local and for remote nano will do the job. It makes no sense to learn vim because I am hit with it once a year, I better learn tools like "tail" and "grep" this ones are useful for what I do. But sure if you are a sysadmin or ssh daily and edit big complex config files the sure learn vim if you really want that.

infinitezest 5y ago
I mean, based on the complaints outlined in your comment above it kind of sounds like vim _is_ a tool of your trade (albeit one that you don't use very often). The basics are probably worth learning just so you don't have to care when you run into vim (opening files, inserting text, save and exit). Learn it once and you're good to go. Or you can keep resetting the default editor to nano. You do you, friend.
- simion314 5y ago
  Sorry if I was not clear, most of the time when you edit a config file you decide what editor you use, so you would run nano /etc/congig.cfg my only issue was with crontab, since it was using nano but someone changed it to vim so I was surprised by it, I really had to google how to exit it. Since I edit cronjobs once a year and for config files I can use nano it would be a waste to learn vim, I would just forget all the shortcuts - not sure how other people memory works by me I forget stuff I do not use , like regexp I use them 2 times a year and each time I need to read again what symbol does what. I am not sure who to blame for making vim the default (in EDITOR), I could swear it was nano and someone in our team had to switch it vim to fuck with the rest,
  - licebmi__at__ 5y ago
    In most the distributions, the default editor is vi, I believe the only (mainstream) distribution which has nano as default is ubuntu. In fact, being a sysadmin, the reason most of us learnt vim is because it's always the default and it's installed everywhere.

infinitezest 5y ago

I mean, based on the complaints outlined in your comment above it kind of sounds like vim _is_ a tool of your trade (albeit one that you don't use very often). The basics are probably worth learning just so you don't have to care when you run into vim (opening files, inserting text, save and exit). Learn it once and you're good to go. Or you can keep resetting the default editor to nano. You do you, friend.

simion314 5y ago
Sorry if I was not clear, most of the time when you edit a config file you decide what editor you use, so you would run nano /etc/congig.cfg my only issue was with crontab, since it was using nano but someone changed it to vim so I was surprised by it, I really had to google how to exit it. Since I edit cronjobs once a year and for config files I can use nano it would be a waste to learn vim, I would just forget all the shortcuts - not sure how other people memory works by me I forget stuff I do not use , like regexp I use them 2 times a year and each time I need to read again what symbol does what. I am not sure who to blame for making vim the default (in EDITOR), I could swear it was nano and someone in our team had to switch it vim to fuck with the rest,
- licebmi__at__ 5y ago
  In most the distributions, the default editor is vi, I believe the only (mainstream) distribution which has nano as default is ubuntu. In fact, being a sysadmin, the reason most of us learnt vim is because it's always the default and it's installed everywhere.