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Navalny has rich history of hate against ethnic and sexual minorities, so giving him the prize would be very controversial in today's world. No?
by Sideyon 5y ago
Navalny has rich history of hate against ethnic and sexual minorities, so giving him the prize would be very controversial in today's world. No?
- sam_lowry_ 5y agoNo. He participated in Russian marches some 20 years ago but kept his distance afterwards. FYI, ultra-nationalists outside of government structures were all jailed or killed since then, and the state nourishes similar sentiments in people much more successfully. He is favoring the idea of abolishing free travel with poorer countries like Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, but this is pretty much in line with the politics of all other governments (US vs Mexico as opposed to US vs Canada). Anything else is state propaganda trying to discredit him.
- Sideyon 5y agoYes. He expressed extremely hateful views on Caucasians, gays, immigrants, and Jews in his blog posts and videos around 2010. He pushed "the great replacement" conspiracy theory right in 2017 saying that Putin conducts Islamization of Russia (his article on why Trump is the opposite of Putin). All these cases make him controversial for the modern world where people are "cancelled" for much less.
- sam_lowry_ 5y agoI reread that article [1] you refer to. Can't see anything you are talking about. Read the source, Luke ;-) BTW, Looking at your previous comments I can see that you only post about Russia. That's red flag. [1] https://navalny.com/p/5124/ https://navalny.com/p/5124/
- Andrew_nenakhov 5y agoPlease cite some sources on his hateful views on gays and jews. As for hateful views on immigrants, well, they boil down to that Russia needs a visa regime with certain middle asian countries. To note, every single EU state, US, Canada, Australia, etc DO have visa regime with those states, and with Russia. Apparently, all politicians in these countries who do not act to abolish the visas are hateful extremists.
- nurgasemetey 5y agoI don't agree with you about that sentiment. Navalny compared middle asian immigrants to "cockroaches" and "rotten tooth". Just because Navaly is anti-Putinist doesn't allow him to say such disgusting things.
- Andrew_nenakhov 5y agoYet again, please, provide sources when you make such bold statements. Navalny is not angel and I do have many questions for him, yet, I feel you are mostly reading propaganda websites.
- nurgasemetey 5y agoAbout Georgians compared to rodents - from hist official blog - https://navalny.livejournal.com/274456.html https://navalny.livejournal.com/274456.html About migrants compared to rotten tooth - from his official youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICoc2VmGdfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICoc2VmGdfw
- Andrew_nenakhov 5y agoLol. Rotten teeth was him referring to russian neo nazis. Do you even know Russian?
- Andrew_nenakhov 5y agoNot true. His 'hate' against ethnic minorities is a gross overstatement. "Stop feeding Caucasus" means stop giving money to murderous criminals who rule in the region, not make people of the Caucasus starve, and his suggestions to restrict travel from former USSR countries are not unlike existing EU or US restrictions of travel applied to Russian citizens. Regarding hate against sexual minorities, in the more than a decade of following Navalny on social media, I have never seen him exhibiting any hate or resentment towards sexual minorities, so I think that this accusation is an outright lie.
- sam_lowry_ 5y agoA note to the readers from the US: "Caucasian" in Russian has the opposite meaning, so some Russians may collide the "Stop feeding Caucasus" slogan with nationalistic statements, but it is more about rule of law and economics. The status quo is that the Russian state pays loads of money to little czars in Caucasus to keep them comfy instead of fighting them in civil wars.
- Sideyon 5y agoStrawman. I wasn't talking about his populist proposals. If you followed him more than 10 years, you would be aware of his extremely hateful comments against all kids of minorities in his blog. For example, his proposals to kick all "rats" (Georgians) out of Russia and bomb them[1]. That's just one example out of many. [1] https://navalny.livejournal.com/274456.html https://navalny.livejournal.com/274456.html
- Andrew_nenakhov 5y agoCITE SOURCES You continuously claim Navalny to have hateful views on sexual minorities or jews, but you fail to provide any sources. As for georgian 'rats'. 1. This was a statement done during an actual WAR with georgia, with extremely distorted information field and difficult to judge situation. I myself was very anti-georgian at that moment, but my views have changed since then. Navalny has also retracted his statement on the matter and apologized for it a long time ago, but propagandists like you endlessly cite it without any context or follow ups.
- bellyfullofbac 5y agoAh, nuance, why are you so rare nowadays? 2 or 3 statements in the past = "rich history of hate"
- Sideyon 5y agoMore like 200-300 statements. 99% are his LJ comments though.
- sam_lowry_ 5y agoYou are a Kremlin bot.
- bellyfullofbac 5y agoAnd 99% too... Got a collection of these comments? The way you describe him he must be an Adolf Hitler. Heck even Adolf Hitler probably wasn't blaming the Jews and communists 99% of the time, your depiction is more of the Westboro Baptist pastor.
- sam_lowry_ 5y agoIndeed. I hate what Navalny said about the Belarusian language, but I can't stop admiring him for his courage. People are inherently complex.
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