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The first thing I do when I get a new tool or work bench or what have you, is to whack a dent in it. That way I can stop being careful with it and start using i

by Doxin 5y ago

The first thing I do when I get a new tool or work bench or what have you, is to whack a dent in it. That way I can stop being careful with it and start using it properly without worrying about keeping it pristine.

wanderingstan 5y ago
This is also why I prefer buying used items.
- skhr0680 5y ago
  It’s one thing I prefer about used cars too. I don’t have to worry about the first tiny scratch or ding
jrootabega 5y ago
Probably better to wait until you know it's not defective before doing that.
- Doxin 5y ago
  Depends on your local consumer protections. Over here you're entitled to a product that is fit for purpose. A defective product is clearly not that, with or without dent. Of course getting the store to honor that is going to be a lot of effort pretty much anywhere in the world, but I don't feel like a small dent contributes to that. To take a random example: I bought ear defenders in a hardware store. I used them fairly frequently for a couple of months, after which I put them on my head and the headband promptly snapped right down in half. I had to argue with the store that that's not a normal way for ear defenders to "wear down", but I got a new pair in the end which have been holding up for years now.
  - jrootabega 5y ago
    That's an interesting story, but to relate it to my previous comment, we have to ask: did you purposely damage the ear defenders for emotional reasons? If so, did you tell them that?
    - Doxin 5y ago
      No, but as long as the damage is unrelated to the defect it's not relevant as far as the law is concerned. I have a right to a product that's fit for purpose. That right doesn't specify anything about the state of the product otherwise.
      - jrootabega 5y ago
        It's sensible to avoid having to argue about what's relevant to the law when returning merchandise.
WhompingWindows 5y ago
Yes! This is the exact reason I drive an old car (2008 Prius with 180k miles!). I could buy a new vehicle like a Black Model 3, but then I'd have to go through the hassle of buying and insuring a new car, and then I'd be nervous about scraping it on a sidewalk or getting bumped by a car door. Or what if the fancy new vehicle has software or hardware problems and I have to send it back to the shop for months?

by Doxin 5y ago

wanderingstan 5y ago

This is also why I prefer buying used items.

skhr0680 5y ago
It’s one thing I prefer about used cars too. I don’t have to worry about the first tiny scratch or ding

jrootabega 5y ago

Probably better to wait until you know it's not defective before doing that.

Doxin 5y ago
Depends on your local consumer protections. Over here you're entitled to a product that is fit for purpose. A defective product is clearly not that, with or without dent. Of course getting the store to honor that is going to be a lot of effort pretty much anywhere in the world, but I don't feel like a small dent contributes to that. To take a random example: I bought ear defenders in a hardware store. I used them fairly frequently for a couple of months, after which I put them on my head and the headband promptly snapped right down in half. I had to argue with the store that that's not a normal way for ear defenders to "wear down", but I got a new pair in the end which have been holding up for years now.
- jrootabega 5y ago
  That's an interesting story, but to relate it to my previous comment, we have to ask: did you purposely damage the ear defenders for emotional reasons? If so, did you tell them that?
  - Doxin 5y ago
    No, but as long as the damage is unrelated to the defect it's not relevant as far as the law is concerned. I have a right to a product that's fit for purpose. That right doesn't specify anything about the state of the product otherwise.
    - jrootabega 5y ago
      It's sensible to avoid having to argue about what's relevant to the law when returning merchandise.

WhompingWindows 5y ago

Yes! This is the exact reason I drive an old car (2008 Prius with 180k miles!). I could buy a new vehicle like a Black Model 3, but then I'd have to go through the hassle of buying and insuring a new car, and then I'd be nervous about scraping it on a sidewalk or getting bumped by a car door. Or what if the fancy new vehicle has software or hardware problems and I have to send it back to the shop for months?