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This made me feel so much better about moths. With the video so close up they looked super cute and snuggly. Something I have never associated with a moth befor

This made me feel so much better about moths. With the video so close up they looked super cute and snuggly. Something I have never associated with a moth before. Secondly, I found it pretty cool to see how their flight wasn't as controlled as I had thought of. It looked like a bit of a mess on take off. Again, just disarmed me from the moths I've grown to despise flying around the house. Very cool to see them from a different perspective.

deepsun 5y ago
Don't even look at bees landings in slow-motion :)
SyzygistSix 5y ago
The Rosy Maple moth is my favorite so it makes me happy to se it as the first one. It's a good moth to represent the cute or adorable aspect of moths. There is a similar, almost identical fuzzy wig moth like them that is entirely white. I think their flight is a good representation of Douglas Adams' description of flight being falling without hitting the ground. Such a great channel and good start to the day.
- SwiftyBug 5y ago
  Yes, Douglas Adams sums up pretty well the flight of moths. But the Guide is even funnier, it says that to fly, one must "throw themselves at the ground and miss".
  - SyzygistSix 5y ago
    THAT'S the quote. Thank you. It seems like moths, and many other insects, throw themselves at everything and just miss most of the time.
  - pengstrom 5y ago
    That's how you get orbits.
pcurve 5y ago
Me too! Moths frighten me so much! I've always had this irrational fear that their powdery wings would cause skin rash.
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago
  Ha, ha, only as an adult I learned that that's not actually powder on their wings, but scales, similar to the ones on a fish. And rubbing it off impedes their flight.
- loveJesus 5y ago
  God is good - maybe not so irrational, Animousisme posted this below https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224879785_The_moth_Hylesia_metabus_and_French_Guiana_lepidopterism_Centenary_of_a_public_health_concern https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224879785_The_moth_...
- DonaldFisk 5y ago
  It's the hairs of hairy caterpillars (and, rarely, hairs on some adult moths) which cause dermatitis, rather than scales on adult moths' wings, so its wise to avoid contact with hairy caterpillars. For a list of species to avoid, see https://ccsuniversity.ac.in/bridge-library/pdf/Biology-Parasites-0905-zo-insects-causing-vesication.pdf https://ccsuniversity.ac.in/bridge-library/pdf/Biology-Paras...
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SiVal 5y ago
Fine cashmere? Too ordinary. Mink? Maybe, for the merely rich. When I make my first billion, I'll have a scarf made of snow-white moth fur.
- blitzar 5y ago
  Given what moths have done to every piece of cashmere I own it would be a fitting revenge.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    What is it about the wool being knitted that attracts the moths. Why are sheep not just covered in moths?
  - DonaldFisk 5y ago
    The larvae of only a few species attack clothes, these ones in particular: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tineola_bisselliella https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tineola_bisselliella https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpet_moth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpet_moth
ajuc 5y ago
> I found it pretty cool to see how their flight wasn't as controlled as I had thought of. In Polish the word for butterfly is "motyl" which comes from "motać" = to move around randomly, to struggle or to move in circles :) BTW I always found it suspicious that "moth" is so similar to "motyl" yet it's apparently unrelated.
- lou1306 5y ago
  How funny, in Italian we kind of have the reverse! We say "andare a zonzo" which mean "wandering without a clear direction", and "zonzo" is onomatopoeia for the sound of a flying insect. > BTW I always found it suspicious that "moth" is so similar to "motyl" yet it's apparently unrelated. By the way, the phenomenon is called "false cognates": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_cognate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_cognate
  - vanderZwan 5y ago
    I can picture that, ever noticed how flies have this weird random-walk zigzagging flying pattern?
- vitro 5y ago
  Heh, TIL this connection, it never occurred to me before. In Czech it is motýl and to motal means to walk as if you are drunk :)
fhe 5y ago
> "their flight wasn't as controlled as I had thought of" I had the same reaction, and it reminded me of other slo-mo videos of insects crawling -- it looked like they are falling all over themselves, with none of the gracefulness that I see in mammals (cheetah running, for example). I wonder if it has to do with insects having much smaller mass, hence they are more easily jerked around by things like airflow.
- mc32 5y ago
  It’s probably due to slowing it down by 4000x. When the slow the windup of a baseball pitcher it also looks ungraceful.
- mattnewton 5y ago
  It could also be due to the way some insect musculature works, they typically don't have the same extension/contraction methods we have by pulling on either side of a bone, which doesn't work in an exoskeleton. My understanding is that they instead rely on a combination of flexors and vascular pressure to extend which is a jerkier-looking process. See the muscle section here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insect_physiology https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insect_physiology
aasasd 5y ago
There were videos floating on the webs of bugs taking flight—looked way messier than this, pretty much jumbling around with legs swinging this and that way, until finally going in the air. This vid, I think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87iV4ISAY5U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87iV4ISAY5U Better than I remembered, but those legs are funny.
foobarian 5y ago
I found it interesting that the extreme slow motion made them seem a lot larger. As if they were furry dog-sized flying animals.
- remram 5y ago
  That's probably due to the lens more than the speed.
  - foobarian 5y ago
    It has to do with the scale and physics of the motion. When you film an avalanche from far away, it appears to descend very slowly at the normal replay rate. But if you made your typical science fair volcano on a tabletop, the foam descends a lot more quickly at the same time scale.
    - remram 5y ago
      The fact that those objects have different scales and speeds does not mean that faster objects automatically appear smaller. You pointed out a correlation. If we are pointing out random anecdotal examples, ice cubes melt slowly, and don't appear huge to the observer.
      - foobarian 5y ago
        I have to disagree both in the case of animals and the volcano example. With animals, there are real underlying physics principles that dictate the strength-to-weight ratios at various scales that lead to smaller animals being able to move more quickly (muscle strength is proportional to cross section, while mass is proportional to volume). In the case of the avalanche, the force at work is the same (gravity) it's just that we are zooming way out and so crossing the same distance takes much more time.

deepsun 5y ago

Don't even look at bees landings in slow-motion :)

SyzygistSix 5y ago

The Rosy Maple moth is my favorite so it makes me happy to se it as the first one. It's a good moth to represent the cute or adorable aspect of moths. There is a similar, almost identical fuzzy wig moth like them that is entirely white. I think their flight is a good representation of Douglas Adams' description of flight being falling without hitting the ground. Such a great channel and good start to the day.

SwiftyBug 5y ago
Yes, Douglas Adams sums up pretty well the flight of moths. But the Guide is even funnier, it says that to fly, one must "throw themselves at the ground and miss".
- SyzygistSix 5y ago
  THAT'S the quote. Thank you. It seems like moths, and many other insects, throw themselves at everything and just miss most of the time.
- pengstrom 5y ago
  That's how you get orbits.

pcurve 5y ago

Me too! Moths frighten me so much! I've always had this irrational fear that their powdery wings would cause skin rash.

ChuckNorris89 5y ago
Ha, ha, only as an adult I learned that that's not actually powder on their wings, but scales, similar to the ones on a fish. And rubbing it off impedes their flight.
loveJesus 5y ago
God is good - maybe not so irrational, Animousisme posted this below https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224879785_The_moth_Hylesia_metabus_and_French_Guiana_lepidopterism_Centenary_of_a_public_health_concern https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224879785_The_moth_...
DonaldFisk 5y ago
It's the hairs of hairy caterpillars (and, rarely, hairs on some adult moths) which cause dermatitis, rather than scales on adult moths' wings, so its wise to avoid contact with hairy caterpillars. For a list of species to avoid, see https://ccsuniversity.ac.in/bridge-library/pdf/Biology-Parasites-0905-zo-insects-causing-vesication.pdf https://ccsuniversity.ac.in/bridge-library/pdf/Biology-Paras...

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SiVal 5y ago

Fine cashmere? Too ordinary. Mink? Maybe, for the merely rich. When I make my first billion, I'll have a scarf made of snow-white moth fur.

blitzar 5y ago
Given what moths have done to every piece of cashmere I own it would be a fitting revenge.
- dylan604 5y ago
  What is it about the wool being knitted that attracts the moths. Why are sheep not just covered in moths?
- DonaldFisk 5y ago
  The larvae of only a few species attack clothes, these ones in particular: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tineola_bisselliella https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tineola_bisselliella https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpet_moth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpet_moth

ajuc 5y ago

> I found it pretty cool to see how their flight wasn't as controlled as I had thought of. In Polish the word for butterfly is "motyl" which comes from "motać" = to move around randomly, to struggle or to move in circles :) BTW I always found it suspicious that "moth" is so similar to "motyl" yet it's apparently unrelated.

lou1306 5y ago
How funny, in Italian we kind of have the reverse! We say "andare a zonzo" which mean "wandering without a clear direction", and "zonzo" is onomatopoeia for the sound of a flying insect. > BTW I always found it suspicious that "moth" is so similar to "motyl" yet it's apparently unrelated. By the way, the phenomenon is called "false cognates": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_cognate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_cognate
- vanderZwan 5y ago
  I can picture that, ever noticed how flies have this weird random-walk zigzagging flying pattern?
vitro 5y ago
Heh, TIL this connection, it never occurred to me before. In Czech it is motýl and to motal means to walk as if you are drunk :)

fhe 5y ago

> "their flight wasn't as controlled as I had thought of" I had the same reaction, and it reminded me of other slo-mo videos of insects crawling -- it looked like they are falling all over themselves, with none of the gracefulness that I see in mammals (cheetah running, for example). I wonder if it has to do with insects having much smaller mass, hence they are more easily jerked around by things like airflow.

mc32 5y ago
It’s probably due to slowing it down by 4000x. When the slow the windup of a baseball pitcher it also looks ungraceful.
mattnewton 5y ago
It could also be due to the way some insect musculature works, they typically don't have the same extension/contraction methods we have by pulling on either side of a bone, which doesn't work in an exoskeleton. My understanding is that they instead rely on a combination of flexors and vascular pressure to extend which is a jerkier-looking process. See the muscle section here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insect_physiology https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insect_physiology

aasasd 5y ago

There were videos floating on the webs of bugs taking flight—looked way messier than this, pretty much jumbling around with legs swinging this and that way, until finally going in the air. This vid, I think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87iV4ISAY5U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87iV4ISAY5U Better than I remembered, but those legs are funny.

foobarian 5y ago

I found it interesting that the extreme slow motion made them seem a lot larger. As if they were furry dog-sized flying animals.

remram 5y ago
That's probably due to the lens more than the speed.
- foobarian 5y ago
  It has to do with the scale and physics of the motion. When you film an avalanche from far away, it appears to descend very slowly at the normal replay rate. But if you made your typical science fair volcano on a tabletop, the foam descends a lot more quickly at the same time scale.
  - remram 5y ago
    The fact that those objects have different scales and speeds does not mean that faster objects automatically appear smaller. You pointed out a correlation. If we are pointing out random anecdotal examples, ice cubes melt slowly, and don't appear huge to the observer.
    - foobarian 5y ago
      I have to disagree both in the case of animals and the volcano example. With animals, there are real underlying physics principles that dictate the strength-to-weight ratios at various scales that lead to smaller animals being able to move more quickly (muscle strength is proportional to cross section, while mass is proportional to volume). In the case of the avalanche, the force at work is the same (gravity) it's just that we are zooming way out and so crossing the same distance takes much more time.