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Ad Mates - I show you, you show me

8 points by dhotson 18y ago

swombat 18y ago
That's kind of cool. Could use more exposure. The groups are a nice solution to the problem of trust on ad exchanges.
KevinMS 18y ago
This idea is so old, doesn't anybody remember last century? http://web.archive.org/web/19961224043248/linkexchange.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/19961224043248/linkexchange.com/
- swombat 18y ago
  The Internet Link Exchange (ILE) is a free public service designed to help web sites advertise each other. The concept is simple: by joining, you agree to display advertising banners for other members, and they agree to display banners for you. You can decide what type of sites to advertise on and advertise for so you don't need to worry about inappropriate material showing up on your pages. Big difference - this one only does the exchange between groups that agree to exchange with each other, which removes a lot of the trust issues that linkexchange and its other variants used to have.
  - KevinMS 18y ago
    You don't think that defunct link exchange probably had that feature, or that there were a thousand variations of that at the time? Its fine, but don't claim is revolutionary like its claimed on the blog post the idea was taken from. Its part of a category of web sites that even has a wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_exchange http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_exchange Maybe its a good plan, I think linkexchange was bought by microsoft, which then killed it.
RobGR 18y ago
I would use something like this. But I went to the various sites listed in the faq as showing ads, and I wasn't impressed -- the ads sucked. For example, on http://www.clarkwood.com/extras/ http://www.clarkwood.com/extras/ , after searching the whole page and looking at my adblock settings to see it was blocked, I finally realized the picture of a wrench and the text "software you might enjoy" was the ad. I might sign up for this anyway, but my web sites already suffer from poor, cluttered design with too much text, and I'll have to block ads that don't make it obvious that they are ads, and why you should or shouldn't click on them.
wheels 18y ago
I like the idea ... I think. Here's some feedback: - Sign up forms must die. I'd have registered if I could view a list of companies that was there and was moderately interested. As was, I ended up just closing the window. - Blog exchange would be more interesting for me. I don't want to display ads on our site, but I have no problem writing about a startup that I find genuinely cool, especially if the interest goes both ways. - You're going to have to ride a tough line between this struggling to be relevant and exploding into a steaming pile of crap. Maybe link it to something like a requirement to have a Crunchbase entry?
RobGR 18y ago
Some follow up thoughts: 1) potential users need to be able see the all groups, and what ads are in the groups, to figure out where they belong 2) Is there a need for private groups at all ? 3) In your faq you mention the startup problem -- everyone starts with 0 points, so they can't show their ads, and no one can get points because their are no ads to show. If you see all the groups and ads in a group, you will get some clicks just coming through people examining that page, and you can assign those credits and get things started that way. 4) I think you need to allow one account to be in multiple groups That's all, I hope your project takes off. Is there any way to make money from this at all ? Other than have another money-making site that is promoted via admates, of course.
rksprst 18y ago
I recently launched a direct competitor to you: http://adexchanged.com/ http://adexchanged.com/ We've had 205194 ad impressions served in the 28 days since we've launched. I'd be interested if you wanted to share some of your numbers... The fact that competitors spring up proves that there's a market there... right? Isn't that how web 2.0 works ;) We're going to launch some major new features and improvements next week (hopefully putting google analytics and google adsense out of business ;).

8 points by dhotson 18y ago

That's kind of cool. Could use more exposure. The groups are a nice solution to the problem of trust on ad exchanges.

This idea is so old, doesn't anybody remember last century? http://web.archive.org/web/19961224043248/linkexchange.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/19961224043248/linkexchange.com/

swombat 18y ago
The Internet Link Exchange (ILE) is a free public service designed to help web sites advertise each other. The concept is simple: by joining, you agree to display advertising banners for other members, and they agree to display banners for you. You can decide what type of sites to advertise on and advertise for so you don't need to worry about inappropriate material showing up on your pages. Big difference - this one only does the exchange between groups that agree to exchange with each other, which removes a lot of the trust issues that linkexchange and its other variants used to have.
- KevinMS 18y ago
  You don't think that defunct link exchange probably had that feature, or that there were a thousand variations of that at the time? Its fine, but don't claim is revolutionary like its claimed on the blog post the idea was taken from. Its part of a category of web sites that even has a wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_exchange http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_exchange Maybe its a good plan, I think linkexchange was bought by microsoft, which then killed it.

RobGR 18y ago

I would use something like this. But I went to the various sites listed in the faq as showing ads, and I wasn't impressed -- the ads sucked. For example, on http://www.clarkwood.com/extras/ http://www.clarkwood.com/extras/ , after searching the whole page and looking at my adblock settings to see it was blocked, I finally realized the picture of a wrench and the text "software you might enjoy" was the ad. I might sign up for this anyway, but my web sites already suffer from poor, cluttered design with too much text, and I'll have to block ads that don't make it obvious that they are ads, and why you should or shouldn't click on them.

wheels 18y ago

I like the idea ... I think. Here's some feedback: - Sign up forms must die. I'd have registered if I could view a list of companies that was there and was moderately interested. As was, I ended up just closing the window. - Blog exchange would be more interesting for me. I don't want to display ads on our site, but I have no problem writing about a startup that I find genuinely cool, especially if the interest goes both ways. - You're going to have to ride a tough line between this struggling to be relevant and exploding into a steaming pile of crap. Maybe link it to something like a requirement to have a Crunchbase entry?

RobGR 18y ago

Some follow up thoughts: 1) potential users need to be able see the all groups, and what ads are in the groups, to figure out where they belong 2) Is there a need for private groups at all ? 3) In your faq you mention the startup problem -- everyone starts with 0 points, so they can't show their ads, and no one can get points because their are no ads to show. If you see all the groups and ads in a group, you will get some clicks just coming through people examining that page, and you can assign those credits and get things started that way. 4) I think you need to allow one account to be in multiple groups That's all, I hope your project takes off. Is there any way to make money from this at all ? Other than have another money-making site that is promoted via admates, of course.

rksprst 18y ago

I recently launched a direct competitor to you: http://adexchanged.com/ http://adexchanged.com/ We've had 205194 ad impressions served in the 28 days since we've launched. I'd be interested if you wanted to share some of your numbers... The fact that competitors spring up proves that there's a market there... right? Isn't that how web 2.0 works ;) We're going to launch some major new features and improvements next week (hopefully putting google analytics and google adsense out of business ;).