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Just 2 0 0 0 lines?!? That's really saying something. I wish it was available on macOS. OT: I've falling back in love with Haskell after reading Ben Lynn's a

Just 2 0 0 0 lines?!? That's really saying something. I wish it was available on macOS. OT: I've falling back in love with Haskell after reading Ben Lynn's astonishing adventures (https://crypto.stanford.edu/~blynn/compiler/ https://crypto.stanford.edu/~blynn/compiler/) and it's still super awesome for explorative programming.

BrianB 5y ago
I missed xmonad when switching to MacOS but found spectacle to be a decent replacement https://www.spectacleapp.com/ https://www.spectacleapp.com/
kule 5y ago
FYI I’ve used this on the Mac it works pretty well: https://ianyh.com/amethyst/ https://ianyh.com/amethyst/
hresvelgr 5y ago
I believe dwm[1] by suckless is around 2000 lines of C. That used to be my go-to for a WM until I got too used gnome. As much as I loved the simplicity of that style of window manager, I am far past the days where I'd delight in tweaking my Linux installation to my personal tastes. If I could have a git repo with a static config that just built my OS the way I like it with minimal messing around, I would love that. I've heard NixOS is meant to work like that but I haven't found the time to try it. Perhaps someone here can enlighten me? [1] http://dwm.suckless.org/ http://dwm.suckless.org/
- snvzz 5y ago
  Dwm is quite slick. If it had unicode support upstream, it would be an option. But they refuse unicode, and I refuse dwm. i3 is workable, and that's what I am using.
  - leephillips 5y ago
    What do you mean by Unicode support in this context? I use dwm and constantly use Unicode, and I don’t see what’s missing, so I’m curious.
  - wtallis 5y ago
    I haven't used dwm. Where does a minimal window manager need unicode support?
- tikhonj 5y ago
  That's exactly how I use Nix—I have a repo that can reproducibly build the same NixOS setup across my machines, and I can even share a large chunk of the config with my work Macbook. Once I got over the hump with Nix, I found it easier to manage and improve my Linux configuration than on "traditional" distros I've tried (Fedora, Ubuntu... etc). Unfortunately, the learning curve was pretty brutal, and I don't think I would have made it over without using Nix for development (without NixOS) first on both my projects and at work.
  - fiddlerwoaroof 5y ago
    I found the Nixos learning curve easier when I started with nust nix-shell and then home manager on Debian and macOS. It let me focus on building up workflows in nix for particular tasks and I’ve slowly worked outwards towards overlays and full nixos deploys.
- iudqnolq 5y ago
  Checkout pop she by system76. They call it a tiling vm but it's just a gnome extension. It's got full mouse support so you can memorize the high-frequency shortcuts and use your mouse for the long tail.
- rgoulter 5y ago
  > I am far past the days where I'd delight in tweaking my Linux installation to my personal tastes. If I could have a git repo with a static config that just built my OS the way I like it with minimal messing around, I would love that. I've heard NixOS is meant to work like that but I haven't found the time to try it. NixOS is neat. And "OS setup from git repo" is something NixOS is excellent at. However, the effort it would take for you to come up with your own NixOS configuration would be much greater than what it would take for you to just re-configure your system each time & keep notes (or write the commands down as scripts). I think the dissuading points under "Should I use NixOS?" are pretty good. https://github.com/hlissner/dotfiles#frequently-asked-questions https://github.com/hlissner/dotfiles#frequently-asked-questi...
  - qudat 5y ago
    This was the realization I came to when I booted up a NixOS VM to start building my configuration. I recently borked my Arch install and had to start from scratch. It took me about 4 hours to get my system back where I left it — all I brought with me were my dotfiles. I just cannot imagine I would spend less than 4 hours figuring out NixOS and its DSL. Even if I setup a fresh OS twice a year I just don’t see it being worth my effort — beyond learning a cool new OS. Arch works well for me and I like the package ecosystem / rolling releases.
    - fiddlerwoaroof 5y ago
      Nix’s payoff is moving to use it for dev projects as well as your base OS config. I’ve been using it instead of the standard mix of brew/bundler/nvm/etc. everyone uses to setup their development environment for React native or instead of pip/venv and couldn’t be happier: no globally installed tools with conflicting versions, just a .envrc and a shell.nix in each project. (No one else on the team uses nix this way, but, in a year or so, I’ve not run into any issues)
forgotpwd16 5y ago
And actually XMonad itself is less than that. Running `scc xmonad/src` shows 1800 lines of code (excludes blanks and comments). Including the Hashell binding to X11, developed by XMonad's team, that is ~760 lines of code, means the entire project is above 2000, which is still close. Indeed impressive.
ozmaverick72 5y ago
The link to Ben Lynn's page looks really interesting - that should probably be a post of HN on its own. Thanks for sharing it.
- ozmaverick72 5y ago
  I just submitted it as an HN story to give it the attention it deserves
solomonb 5y ago
to be fair, there is a ton of complexity offloaded to `xmonad-contrib`. I don't think very many people use `xmonad` without `xmonad-contrib`.

BrianB 5y ago

I missed xmonad when switching to MacOS but found spectacle to be a decent replacement https://www.spectacleapp.com/ https://www.spectacleapp.com/

kule 5y ago

FYI I’ve used this on the Mac it works pretty well: https://ianyh.com/amethyst/ https://ianyh.com/amethyst/

hresvelgr 5y ago

I believe dwm[1] by suckless is around 2000 lines of C. That used to be my go-to for a WM until I got too used gnome. As much as I loved the simplicity of that style of window manager, I am far past the days where I'd delight in tweaking my Linux installation to my personal tastes. If I could have a git repo with a static config that just built my OS the way I like it with minimal messing around, I would love that. I've heard NixOS is meant to work like that but I haven't found the time to try it. Perhaps someone here can enlighten me? [1] http://dwm.suckless.org/ http://dwm.suckless.org/

snvzz 5y ago
Dwm is quite slick. If it had unicode support upstream, it would be an option. But they refuse unicode, and I refuse dwm. i3 is workable, and that's what I am using.
- leephillips 5y ago
  What do you mean by Unicode support in this context? I use dwm and constantly use Unicode, and I don’t see what’s missing, so I’m curious.
- wtallis 5y ago
  I haven't used dwm. Where does a minimal window manager need unicode support?
tikhonj 5y ago
That's exactly how I use Nix—I have a repo that can reproducibly build the same NixOS setup across my machines, and I can even share a large chunk of the config with my work Macbook. Once I got over the hump with Nix, I found it easier to manage and improve my Linux configuration than on "traditional" distros I've tried (Fedora, Ubuntu... etc). Unfortunately, the learning curve was pretty brutal, and I don't think I would have made it over without using Nix for development (without NixOS) first on both my projects and at work.
- fiddlerwoaroof 5y ago
  I found the Nixos learning curve easier when I started with nust nix-shell and then home manager on Debian and macOS. It let me focus on building up workflows in nix for particular tasks and I’ve slowly worked outwards towards overlays and full nixos deploys.
iudqnolq 5y ago
Checkout pop she by system76. They call it a tiling vm but it's just a gnome extension. It's got full mouse support so you can memorize the high-frequency shortcuts and use your mouse for the long tail.
rgoulter 5y ago
> I am far past the days where I'd delight in tweaking my Linux installation to my personal tastes. If I could have a git repo with a static config that just built my OS the way I like it with minimal messing around, I would love that. I've heard NixOS is meant to work like that but I haven't found the time to try it. NixOS is neat. And "OS setup from git repo" is something NixOS is excellent at. However, the effort it would take for you to come up with your own NixOS configuration would be much greater than what it would take for you to just re-configure your system each time & keep notes (or write the commands down as scripts). I think the dissuading points under "Should I use NixOS?" are pretty good. https://github.com/hlissner/dotfiles#frequently-asked-questions https://github.com/hlissner/dotfiles#frequently-asked-questi...
- qudat 5y ago
  This was the realization I came to when I booted up a NixOS VM to start building my configuration. I recently borked my Arch install and had to start from scratch. It took me about 4 hours to get my system back where I left it — all I brought with me were my dotfiles. I just cannot imagine I would spend less than 4 hours figuring out NixOS and its DSL. Even if I setup a fresh OS twice a year I just don’t see it being worth my effort — beyond learning a cool new OS. Arch works well for me and I like the package ecosystem / rolling releases.
  - fiddlerwoaroof 5y ago
    Nix’s payoff is moving to use it for dev projects as well as your base OS config. I’ve been using it instead of the standard mix of brew/bundler/nvm/etc. everyone uses to setup their development environment for React native or instead of pip/venv and couldn’t be happier: no globally installed tools with conflicting versions, just a .envrc and a shell.nix in each project. (No one else on the team uses nix this way, but, in a year or so, I’ve not run into any issues)

forgotpwd16 5y ago

And actually XMonad itself is less than that. Running `scc xmonad/src` shows 1800 lines of code (excludes blanks and comments). Including the Hashell binding to X11, developed by XMonad's team, that is ~760 lines of code, means the entire project is above 2000, which is still close. Indeed impressive.

ozmaverick72 5y ago

The link to Ben Lynn's page looks really interesting - that should probably be a post of HN on its own. Thanks for sharing it.

ozmaverick72 5y ago
I just submitted it as an HN story to give it the attention it deserves

solomonb 5y ago

to be fair, there is a ton of complexity offloaded to `xmonad-contrib`. I don't think very many people use `xmonad` without `xmonad-contrib`.