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> You're arguing that people trying to make a better life for themselves are ruining the lives of others? 100%. > I think it's extremely clear that California

by cletus 5y ago

> You're arguing that people trying to make a better life for themselves are ruining the lives of others? 100%. > I think it's extremely clear that Californian's own tax policies California's tax policies have been that way since at least the 70s. I'm thinking Prop 13 and rent control, which were essentially massive giveaways to incumbents at the expense of everyone else. Your presence is support for those policies, both tacitly by supporting companies based there and directly with your tax dollars. But I guess it's easier to wave your hands in the air and declare it someone else's problem rather than to acknowledge the part you play in supporting the system. > Yet we blame the young tech workers It's not one or the other. You can both be in the wrong. And you both are, for the record.

scoofy 5y ago
This is irrational. Though i am not a 'tech worker' my presence is actively trying to undo the harmful policies by being another vote to overturn the paradigm. Literally leaving does nothing but slightly delay the injustices that these policies perpetuate. Effectively brain-drain, but for the voting populace. The displacement is going to happen with our without tech workers, because of the land use policies. Maybe not today, but as it stands, the region will likely never become more affordable. Blaming the tech workers for literally existing when the suburban tides turned back to urbanism is a trivially irrational post hoc argument.
- cletus 5y ago
  The dirty little secret of SFBA tech workers is (IMHO) that they're not really liberal. They like to pretend to be and pay lip service to various social causes. They'll vote for the legalization of gay marriage (Prop 8) and recreational cannabis use (Prop 64) and will write checks to the ACLU and pet shelters. But they'll also vote to protect their investments, being the significant amounts they have tied up in Bay Area housing. And if the campus workers, nurses and teachers have to drive 4 hours a day to get to work, so be it.

by cletus 5y ago

scoofy 5y ago

This is irrational. Though i am not a 'tech worker' my presence is actively trying to undo the harmful policies by being another vote to overturn the paradigm. Literally leaving does nothing but slightly delay the injustices that these policies perpetuate. Effectively brain-drain, but for the voting populace. The displacement is going to happen with our without tech workers, because of the land use policies. Maybe not today, but as it stands, the region will likely never become more affordable. Blaming the tech workers for literally existing when the suburban tides turned back to urbanism is a trivially irrational post hoc argument.

cletus 5y ago
The dirty little secret of SFBA tech workers is (IMHO) that they're not really liberal. They like to pretend to be and pay lip service to various social causes. They'll vote for the legalization of gay marriage (Prop 8) and recreational cannabis use (Prop 64) and will write checks to the ACLU and pet shelters. But they'll also vote to protect their investments, being the significant amounts they have tied up in Bay Area housing. And if the campus workers, nurses and teachers have to drive 4 hours a day to get to work, so be it.