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There is nothing wrong, except that, usually in a blue collar job, everyone is replaceable and the salaries are low to average. Yes, all of this come from fear

by nomdep 5y ago

There is nothing wrong, except that, usually in a blue collar job, everyone is replaceable and the salaries are low to average. Yes, all of this come from fear of not being able to make a living as a programmer in 10 years

endisneigh 5y ago
everyone is replaceable in tech too (or basically any job for that matter).
auslegung 5y ago
> Yes, all of this come from fear of not being able to make a living as a programmer in 10 years Caveat: I'm in the USA, so what I'm about to say may only apply here. I don't know the market for software engineers outside the USA. In 10 years, you and I will have 10 more years of experience than we do now. We will probably be twice as valuable to a company. Anyone who joins the field today will forever be behind us in years of experience. Years of experience means nothing if the experience isn't valuable, so we need to continue improving. That's a good thing. I don't know the exact distribution, but not everyone who joins the field today will even be able to compete with us for jobs in 10 years. I'm just guessing here, but I think the majority of people, or at least a very large minority, don't make it to senior level. Some quit and change careers, others don't want to or can't get there. I'm in no way concerned about job security in 10 years. I see AI being a larger threat to our jobs than other developers. But I doubt it will be a threat to my career. I have about 30 years left, and each year I have more experience than before. So AI would have to overtake me at some point in the next 30 years, and in the meantime also overtake /lots/ of others. The software engineering field would be fairly decimated by AI before it took my job.
- nickthemagicman 5y ago
  Does experience matter in technology that much?
  - petr25102018 5y ago
    Exactly. We see it again and again that years of experience don't matter unless it is with a specific tech, and tech gets replaced all the time.
  - navd 5y ago
    Yes but from the frame that the amount of diff problems you experience matters. Not your 10 years of experience solving 1 set of problems

by nomdep 5y ago

endisneigh 5y ago

everyone is replaceable in tech too (or basically any job for that matter).

auslegung 5y ago

> Yes, all of this come from fear of not being able to make a living as a programmer in 10 years Caveat: I'm in the USA, so what I'm about to say may only apply here. I don't know the market for software engineers outside the USA. In 10 years, you and I will have 10 more years of experience than we do now. We will probably be twice as valuable to a company. Anyone who joins the field today will forever be behind us in years of experience. Years of experience means nothing if the experience isn't valuable, so we need to continue improving. That's a good thing. I don't know the exact distribution, but not everyone who joins the field today will even be able to compete with us for jobs in 10 years. I'm just guessing here, but I think the majority of people, or at least a very large minority, don't make it to senior level. Some quit and change careers, others don't want to or can't get there. I'm in no way concerned about job security in 10 years. I see AI being a larger threat to our jobs than other developers. But I doubt it will be a threat to my career. I have about 30 years left, and each year I have more experience than before. So AI would have to overtake me at some point in the next 30 years, and in the meantime also overtake /lots/ of others. The software engineering field would be fairly decimated by AI before it took my job.

nickthemagicman 5y ago
Does experience matter in technology that much?
- petr25102018 5y ago
  Exactly. We see it again and again that years of experience don't matter unless it is with a specific tech, and tech gets replaced all the time.
- navd 5y ago
  Yes but from the frame that the amount of diff problems you experience matters. Not your 10 years of experience solving 1 set of problems