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I understand the motives behind keeping it vague, but at a certain point doesn't the vagueness remove all value? What is the point in releasing a statement eff
by slg 5y ago
I understand the motives behind keeping it vague, but at a certain point doesn't the vagueness remove all value? What is the point in releasing a statement effectively saying "Our sub hit an unknown object for an unknown reason in an unknown location and the damages are unknown but do not threaten the ship"? Why say anything at all at this point?
- bostonsre 5y agoI'd guess it was for the families of sailors. They may hear through the grapevine that there was an accident, but think it would be good to get out in front of it to state there was an accident but there were no life threatening injuries so that no undue grief is caused. It seems like it would be a little nerve racking thinking about a loved one even just working on a submarine.
- ethbr0 5y agoAnd also presumably for the Chinese. Who, if the preliminary reports are not to be believed, possibly received a notification that one of their UUVs or subs was damaged. While tensions are high with Taiwan. And there are five(?) international carriers / amphibs conducting manuevers off Japan.
- dmix 5y agoThe Navy’s of the worlds job is a whole lot of high tech ‘watching’ of the other Navy’s. So having an official statement seems to make sense. (But I don’t think the GP really meant they shouldn’t say it at all, they just want more details.)
- AreYouSirius 5y agomakes sense now ? https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/03/us/pipeline-broken-oil-pacific-ocean.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/03/us/pipeline-broken-oil-pa... 25 miles per hour ! XD
- slg 5y agoThat is totally unrelated. "three miles off the coast of Newport Beach" is not "international waters in the Indo-Pacific region".
- AreYouSirius 5y agotimewise it checks 25 MPH
- slg 5y agoI have no idea what you are even implying. What is the significance of 25 mph?
- notatoad 5y agothey're essentially saying nothing. at some point word would get out that the sub hit something - people talk. and then the story would be "this sub hit something, and the navy is keeping it secret" a statement like this is just an acknowledgement of facts that would become public anyways, and a pre-emptive refusal to provide any further details. it exists so that when a somebody asks a question, they can say "please refer to our already published statement"
- captainoats 5y agoThe value is in providing accountability to the civilian world, even if we can’t have access to specifics for security reasons we can watch for any patterns of safety or diplomatic incidents or bother our representatives to go find out more info.