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It always bugs me they trot out the Mountain View crash as an example where a Model X struck an unmarked and unprotected jersey barrier end in what visually loo

It always bugs me they trot out the Mountain View crash as an example where a Model X struck an unmarked and unprotected jersey barrier end in what visually looks like a traffic lane. Further that multiple human drivers had hit the divider in the same spot and a near fatal accident occurred literally the next day into the same barrier. If I put a brick wall on the freeway and paint it to look like a tunnel ala wil-e-coyote am I responsible for building the wall or is the driver responsible for hitting it?

willcipriano 5y ago
Is this the one you are talking about? https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/30/tesla-autopilot-was-on-during-deadly-mountain-view-crash/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/30/tesla-autopilot-was-o... I'd blame a human driver for hitting it in this case.
fwip 5y ago
Were any of the person-driven accidents fatal, do you know?
ReGenGen 5y ago
If it fools .1% of human drivers and 50% of automated Tesla's I'd say is Tesla's fault.
- erulabs 5y ago
  It’s Mountain View California - fully 50% of the cars on the roads are Teslas
UncleEntity 5y ago
The Mountain View crash where the driver reported that specific location to Tesla on multiple occasions and still let the robocar drive full speed into the jersey barrier on autopilot?
- blitzar 5y ago
  It sounds a bit like the 3 foot wide concrete pillar that came out of nowhere and scratched half way down the passenger side of the car recently.
  - RattleyCooper 5y ago
    You can blame the driver but if tesla calls their systems "auto-pilot" or "full self-driving" mode then they're creating expectations in people's minds that they aren't going to be kamikaze'd into a concrete wall... When they create these expectations and then people die, something needs to change.
    - jjeaff 5y ago
      Even if they didn't call it that, anything that allows drivers to redirect their attention seems dangerous to me. Because it is always going to be hard for a disengaged driver to regain control and evade an accident in the last second.

willcipriano 5y ago

Is this the one you are talking about? https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/30/tesla-autopilot-was-on-during-deadly-mountain-view-crash/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/30/tesla-autopilot-was-o... I'd blame a human driver for hitting it in this case.

fwip 5y ago

Were any of the person-driven accidents fatal, do you know?

ReGenGen 5y ago

If it fools .1% of human drivers and 50% of automated Tesla's I'd say is Tesla's fault.

erulabs 5y ago
It’s Mountain View California - fully 50% of the cars on the roads are Teslas

UncleEntity 5y ago

The Mountain View crash where the driver reported that specific location to Tesla on multiple occasions and still let the robocar drive full speed into the jersey barrier on autopilot?

blitzar 5y ago
It sounds a bit like the 3 foot wide concrete pillar that came out of nowhere and scratched half way down the passenger side of the car recently.
- RattleyCooper 5y ago
  You can blame the driver but if tesla calls their systems "auto-pilot" or "full self-driving" mode then they're creating expectations in people's minds that they aren't going to be kamikaze'd into a concrete wall... When they create these expectations and then people die, something needs to change.
  - jjeaff 5y ago
    Even if they didn't call it that, anything that allows drivers to redirect their attention seems dangerous to me. Because it is always going to be hard for a disengaged driver to regain control and evade an accident in the last second.