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The Israeli study was on Phizer. Finland is recommending people people not take Moderna and instead take the Phizer. Without a more detailed case behind this i
by mfer 5y ago
The Israeli study was on Phizer. Finland is recommending people people not take Moderna and instead take the Phizer.
Without a more detailed case behind this it feels like "just trust us".
I'd really like some trust but verify. The lack of ability to verify many of these directions, especially with some of them from different organizations contradicting each other, is bothersome.
- azinman2 5y agoNew study using Kaiser data with both Pfizer and Moderna all ages [1]. 15 cases out of 2,392,924 (0.8 cases per 1 million first doses and 5.8 cases per 1 million second doses over a 10-day observation window), of which all were men with a median age of 25 years. While that's both vaccines, it's still quite rare especially given the large population size (2.3M people), especially considering for under 16s your risk of myocarditis is 37x more likely if you get Covid [2]. [1] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2784800 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullar... [2] https://www.aappublications.org/news/2021/08/31/covid-myocarditis-risk-children-083121 https://www.aappublications.org/news/2021/08/31/covid-myocar...
- mfer 5y agoThanks for the data. In a world where people like to talk about their opinions, it's great to have some form of foundation. When I speak to folks and can talk about these details it often sways opinions on those who aren't at the extremes. I wish more people shared data and the foundation for their opinion.
- 8note 5y agoWhat's missing is how many people you'd expect to have some myocarditis in absense of covid or the vaccine. I doubt that it would be 0/2M