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> Microsoft has undoubtedly created untold value for developers and their shareholders with WSL. If there is a larger purpose around WSL, VS Code, and "MS <3 L

> Microsoft has undoubtedly created untold value for developers and their shareholders with WSL. If there is a larger purpose around WSL, VS Code, and "MS <3 Linux" messaging, it is definitely this. They have really changed their reputation among developers.

heavyset_go 5y ago
In my opinion, Microsoft is the same Microsoft they were two decades ago. The company is still as efficient as they were back then at destroying what goodwill they have with developers[1]. However, I can't ignore that they've certainly created value for engineers that use Windows to develop software that runs on Linux, similar to the value created by WINE's developers. It's just a shame that similar value and innovation are stifled by the limitations set by Google's SafetyNet when it comes to running Android software on other platforms. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28779342 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28779342
bsder 5y ago
VSCode has been a HUGE deal. Being able to use the same editor for all your languages and all your operating systems is just enormous to most developers. However, the goal wasn't to make "Linux" a first class citizen so much as to bring "non-Windows" developers underneath the mothership. It's even beginning to affect the embedded world: https://www.nordicsemi.com/News/2021/10/Nordic-launches-nRF-Connect-for-VS-Code https://www.nordicsemi.com/News/2021/10/Nordic-launches-nRF-...
- fomine3 5y ago
  VSCode Remote Development is a revolution. I with it open sourced.
  - Groxx 5y ago
    It really is a huge amount better than pretty much everything else, yeah. ... now if only the language servers it relies on could be anywhere near as polished :| rust-analyzer is a stunning example of what's possible with language services, gopls is only barely functional enough to be worth running.
  - pitterpatter 5y ago
    Seconded! If for nothing else but to support systems they don't currently provide binaries for :(

heavyset_go 5y ago

In my opinion, Microsoft is the same Microsoft they were two decades ago. The company is still as efficient as they were back then at destroying what goodwill they have with developers[1]. However, I can't ignore that they've certainly created value for engineers that use Windows to develop software that runs on Linux, similar to the value created by WINE's developers. It's just a shame that similar value and innovation are stifled by the limitations set by Google's SafetyNet when it comes to running Android software on other platforms. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28779342 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28779342

bsder 5y ago

VSCode has been a HUGE deal. Being able to use the same editor for all your languages and all your operating systems is just enormous to most developers. However, the goal wasn't to make "Linux" a first class citizen so much as to bring "non-Windows" developers underneath the mothership. It's even beginning to affect the embedded world: https://www.nordicsemi.com/News/2021/10/Nordic-launches-nRF-Connect-for-VS-Code https://www.nordicsemi.com/News/2021/10/Nordic-launches-nRF-...

fomine3 5y ago
VSCode Remote Development is a revolution. I with it open sourced.
- Groxx 5y ago
  It really is a huge amount better than pretty much everything else, yeah. ... now if only the language servers it relies on could be anywhere near as polished :| rust-analyzer is a stunning example of what's possible with language services, gopls is only barely functional enough to be worth running.
- pitterpatter 5y ago
  Seconded! If for nothing else but to support systems they don't currently provide binaries for :(