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> Pointing to a provision in its terms of service that purports to bind even former users of Facebook, Facebook also demanded that I never again create a tool

by pmlnr 5y ago

> Pointing to a provision in its terms of service that purports to bind even former users of Facebook, Facebook also demanded that I never again create a tool that interacts with Facebook or its many other services in any way. The what? How on Earth is that legal in any country?

thesuitonym 5y ago
If I go to Zuck's Family Grocery Store, and break a bunch of stuff, or just cause a ruckus, they can ask me to leave. They can even tell me that I am no longer welcome in their store. If I go to a website, and cause a problem, I can be IP banned forever. Why shouldn't Facebook be able to say, "Don't ever use our service again"? It's their service
- pmlnr 5y ago
  FB is not in any way a "Family Grocery Store", at maximum a self storage facility with glass walls. For the rest see sibling comment and the wheelchair analogy.
- ImPostingOnHN 5y ago
  you're describing the "dude got banned" part the other part is "dude is threatened with a lawsuit if anything he ever codes ever touches anything facebook, even if he himself never uses it" the store analogy is bad anyways -- I could try to correct it, but it's so non-analogous that the result would be contrived and convoluted the key point is that I, as someone who wants to use his browser extension to make my facebook experience healthier, no longer can do so because facebook banned me from using the tool, too so I guess a horrible store analogy would be, the store disallows me from using a wheelchair to access their store if he built the wheelchair, and also if he builds the wheelchair he gets sued it's just like the most recent facebook whistleblower said: facebook prioritizes profits over user safety, and will until they are forced to prioritize user safety higher -- just like OSHA made companies do for employees, the FDA made food and drug companies do for users, etc.
- unethical_ban 5y ago
  I think your analogy is incorrect. That would be like a shop-owner trying to sue someone who makes a lock-picking set for their model of locks. At the end of the day, it is the owner of the account running this tool, and FB is saying "don't tell people how to use JS to auto-unfollow people or we'll sue you". It's an extreme measure.

by pmlnr 5y ago

thesuitonym 5y ago

If I go to Zuck's Family Grocery Store, and break a bunch of stuff, or just cause a ruckus, they can ask me to leave. They can even tell me that I am no longer welcome in their store. If I go to a website, and cause a problem, I can be IP banned forever. Why shouldn't Facebook be able to say, "Don't ever use our service again"? It's their service

pmlnr 5y ago
FB is not in any way a "Family Grocery Store", at maximum a self storage facility with glass walls. For the rest see sibling comment and the wheelchair analogy.
ImPostingOnHN 5y ago
you're describing the "dude got banned" part the other part is "dude is threatened with a lawsuit if anything he ever codes ever touches anything facebook, even if he himself never uses it" the store analogy is bad anyways -- I could try to correct it, but it's so non-analogous that the result would be contrived and convoluted the key point is that I, as someone who wants to use his browser extension to make my facebook experience healthier, no longer can do so because facebook banned me from using the tool, too so I guess a horrible store analogy would be, the store disallows me from using a wheelchair to access their store if he built the wheelchair, and also if he builds the wheelchair he gets sued it's just like the most recent facebook whistleblower said: facebook prioritizes profits over user safety, and will until they are forced to prioritize user safety higher -- just like OSHA made companies do for employees, the FDA made food and drug companies do for users, etc.
unethical_ban 5y ago
I think your analogy is incorrect. That would be like a shop-owner trying to sue someone who makes a lock-picking set for their model of locks. At the end of the day, it is the owner of the account running this tool, and FB is saying "don't tell people how to use JS to auto-unfollow people or we'll sue you". It's an extreme measure.