> The biking community should really be trying to remove all the barriers and not just saying it will get better when every road has a bike lane, because it won

> The biking community should really be trying to remove all the barriers and not just saying it will get better when every road has a bike lane, because it won't. I think it's easy to confuse the cycling community fighting for bike lanes with them believing it's the optimal solution. The truth is, it's hard enough to get this bare minimum that it becomes the thing we fight over most often. But of course, the dream is separate bike infrastructure. > Each town and city has a different standard for hand signals (which I think refutes the claim that drivers would be completely unable to recognize or understand a turn signal on a bike) and the laws are different everywhere around things like lights and bells. I think you may be overthinking this part? Hand signals couldn't be more simple, and I can't imagine them changing much between cities. If you don't like letting go of the bars in traffic, that's another issue, and I agree turn signals could be helpful. Lights and bells ... I'd just get a bike with a bell and a dynamo light system from the factory. I can't imagine ending up on the wrong side of the law that way. Your overall experience is super interesting to me, just want to say that, as someone deeply interested in cycling and the barriers to adoption.