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My ignorance is showing but, why Zig deserve to be funded?

by nomdep 5y ago

rStar 5y ago
that’s my thought. i get people having pet projects, but i’m over the hard sales pitch for why i should care
- meheleventyone 5y ago
  I think you both are thinking deserved means something stronger and more like entitled than it does. In this context I just means the OP think the project mentioned merit their funding.
- coldtea 5y ago
  If you're a founder or a developer you're more likely than not taking advantage (either your bussiness or the business you work for, or you for your personal projects) of tons of such "pet projects" from Python and Node, to Postgres and Zig. So, there's that...
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dralley 5y ago
Even disregarding the language entirely, the toolchain innovations that have come out of Zig are pretty exciting and worth the price of admission. I hope Clang and Rustc learn a few tricks from them.
- einpoklum 5y ago
  Can you link to an elaboration about this point specifically?
  - yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
    Consider reading this thread and its parent article discussion - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27873193 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27873193
int_19h 5y ago
Because a "better C" is long overdue. (And no, Rust is not it. It's a great language, but its design philosophy is very different.) Ironically, today, Zig is also one of the best C/C++ compilers around, chiefly because it "just works", even for advanced scenarios such as cross-compilers: https://andrewkelley.me/post/zig-cc-powerful-drop-in-replacement-gcc-clang.html https://andrewkelley.me/post/zig-cc-powerful-drop-in-replace... (Yes, of course, the actual compiler is Clang. But Zig wraps it in a way that makes it so much easier to install and use, especially on Windows.)
- 0des 5y ago
  > Because a "better C" is long overdue. I owe you 1 beer, this is so true. If I can just get something that treats a string politely I'll be over the moon. If that's Zig, it has earned my contribution, simple as that.
- rStar 5y ago
  rust is it. the sooner everyone figures that out, the better.
  - int_19h 5y ago
    We can argue over whether Rust is a better low-level systems programming language than Zig; but that's not what I meant. C didn't shove you into a straightjacket, and neither does Zig - that's why the latter can meaningfully claim to be the true spiritual successor of the former. Rust is something else entirely (again, whether that "something else" is preferable is a different argument!).
    - rStar 5y ago
      dude, people are dumb and code has to work. we even would like it to scale per core. rust is it. this zig seems a personal project not the c replacement for the next 50 years.

My ignorance is showing but, why Zig deserve to be funded?

by nomdep 5y ago

My ignorance is showing but, why Zig deserve to be funded?

rStar 5y ago

that’s my thought. i get people having pet projects, but i’m over the hard sales pitch for why i should care

meheleventyone 5y ago
I think you both are thinking deserved means something stronger and more like entitled than it does. In this context I just means the OP think the project mentioned merit their funding.
coldtea 5y ago
If you're a founder or a developer you're more likely than not taking advantage (either your bussiness or the business you work for, or you for your personal projects) of tons of such "pet projects" from Python and Node, to Postgres and Zig. So, there's that...
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dralley 5y ago

Even disregarding the language entirely, the toolchain innovations that have come out of Zig are pretty exciting and worth the price of admission. I hope Clang and Rustc learn a few tricks from them.

einpoklum 5y ago
Can you link to an elaboration about this point specifically?
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
  Consider reading this thread and its parent article discussion - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27873193 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27873193

int_19h 5y ago

Because a "better C" is long overdue. (And no, Rust is not it. It's a great language, but its design philosophy is very different.) Ironically, today, Zig is also one of the best C/C++ compilers around, chiefly because it "just works", even for advanced scenarios such as cross-compilers: https://andrewkelley.me/post/zig-cc-powerful-drop-in-replacement-gcc-clang.html https://andrewkelley.me/post/zig-cc-powerful-drop-in-replace... (Yes, of course, the actual compiler is Clang. But Zig wraps it in a way that makes it so much easier to install and use, especially on Windows.)

0des 5y ago
> Because a "better C" is long overdue. I owe you 1 beer, this is so true. If I can just get something that treats a string politely I'll be over the moon. If that's Zig, it has earned my contribution, simple as that.
rStar 5y ago
rust is it. the sooner everyone figures that out, the better.
- int_19h 5y ago
  We can argue over whether Rust is a better low-level systems programming language than Zig; but that's not what I meant. C didn't shove you into a straightjacket, and neither does Zig - that's why the latter can meaningfully claim to be the true spiritual successor of the former. Rust is something else entirely (again, whether that "something else" is preferable is a different argument!).
  - rStar 5y ago
    dude, people are dumb and code has to work. we even would like it to scale per core. rust is it. this zig seems a personal project not the c replacement for the next 50 years.