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Even faster for 0->1, use Javascript, big ecosystem as Python but same language in front-end and back-end. Faster runtime also.

by ithrow 5y ago

m_mueller 5y ago
Depends. Mainly on what libraries you can make use of. For anything numerical or also ETL processes that deal with various document formats python is way more mature.
- ithrow 5y ago
  Since you don't know if your product will workout and you want to go fast you use a third-party service first. Of course, for some type of stuff, you might have to go with python but if both can equally do the job well in the backend and you need a web[mobile] frontend the...
BiteCode_dev 5y ago
There are still no "rails" or "django" for JS. There are frameworks emerging with the same features, but they don't have close to the ecosystem. Meaning every time you want auth, social integration, etc. you have to reinvent the wheel. There is also the stdlib. JS doesn't have simple things built in like left trim a string, csv loading, uuid generation, etc. Then there is the API. Sorting in JS requires this weird -1/1 function. Getting the last element or truthiness to manipulate length. Suddenly not only you have to install tons of things, but libs and frameworks can't rely on a common ground, nothing seems to integrate well. You glue a lot of things manually. The popularity of JS is because it has a monopoly on the browser, and so a lot of people must use it, and a lot of users know it by default, and look for it elsewhere. But when you have Ruby, Python, or even modern PHP frameworks in front of it, it's not a great deal. Of course, not all programming tasks are about the Web. And this is where JS collapses completely. Sysadmin, data analysis, pen testing or automation using JS is a pain compared to the fluent versatility of alternatives. You know, things like connect to this ftp, download the excel files every hour, put the average of every column in the mysql db then export the thing as a PDF and send that to the boss.
- vram22 5y ago
  >There is also the stdlib. JS doesn't have simple things built in like left trim a string, Or left pad. https://www.google.com/search?q=left+pad+js https://www.google.com/search?q=left+pad+js left-pad as a service https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11352315 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11352315 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11350651 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11350651 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11354770 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11354770

Even faster for 0->1, use Javascript, big ecosystem as Python but same language in front-end and back-end. Faster runtime also.

by ithrow 5y ago

Even faster for 0->1, use Javascript, big ecosystem as Python but same language in front-end and back-end. Faster runtime also.

m_mueller 5y ago

Depends. Mainly on what libraries you can make use of. For anything numerical or also ETL processes that deal with various document formats python is way more mature.

ithrow 5y ago
Since you don't know if your product will workout and you want to go fast you use a third-party service first. Of course, for some type of stuff, you might have to go with python but if both can equally do the job well in the backend and you need a web[mobile] frontend the...

BiteCode_dev 5y ago

There are still no "rails" or "django" for JS. There are frameworks emerging with the same features, but they don't have close to the ecosystem. Meaning every time you want auth, social integration, etc. you have to reinvent the wheel. There is also the stdlib. JS doesn't have simple things built in like left trim a string, csv loading, uuid generation, etc. Then there is the API. Sorting in JS requires this weird -1/1 function. Getting the last element or truthiness to manipulate length. Suddenly not only you have to install tons of things, but libs and frameworks can't rely on a common ground, nothing seems to integrate well. You glue a lot of things manually. The popularity of JS is because it has a monopoly on the browser, and so a lot of people must use it, and a lot of users know it by default, and look for it elsewhere. But when you have Ruby, Python, or even modern PHP frameworks in front of it, it's not a great deal. Of course, not all programming tasks are about the Web. And this is where JS collapses completely. Sysadmin, data analysis, pen testing or automation using JS is a pain compared to the fluent versatility of alternatives. You know, things like connect to this ftp, download the excel files every hour, put the average of every column in the mysql db then export the thing as a PDF and send that to the boss.

vram22 5y ago
>There is also the stdlib. JS doesn't have simple things built in like left trim a string, Or left pad. https://www.google.com/search?q=left+pad+js https://www.google.com/search?q=left+pad+js left-pad as a service https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11352315 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11352315 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11350651 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11350651 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11354770 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11354770