>How would you know? And how do you measure it? I measure it by the number of opportunities one has or had in the past.Your practical education happens later b

>How would you know? And how do you measure it? I measure it by the number of opportunities one has or had in the past.Your practical education happens later because you did not have access to computers in any form. You can't travel not only because of your passport but also because you simply cannot afford it.One cannot simply just go from Ukraine to a richer country in Europe like you can in the US. It's simply the lack of available opportunities that hinders any progress.Even for world class engineers like Michal Zalewski that was the case: http://lcamtuf.blogspot.com/2015/03/on-journeys.html http://lcamtuf.blogspot.com/2015/03/on-journeys.html >It was harder to grow up in Kiev because you were in worse poverty than blacks in the US. Possibly. Were you also discriminated against in Kiev? Was your family broken, and your community broken? Did you have a failing school system relative to others in your community? You were always discriminated in Eastern Europe because of your lack of connections and corruption.Inept people have always had an upper hand here. I dont know what you mean by "family broken".Many EE families were broken.I come from such family.After the fall of iron curtain i grew up in relative poverty where my mother had no job and she was constantly harassed by her drug addicted partner.My father dumped us long time ago and simply did not care. What do you consider a broken community? You mean one where mafia runs free and where you cant go to the police because they are corrupt? Yes those were the times of 90s. >The point is there are many systems that make up "black in America" that doesn't translate to only family income. I think you dont understand the reality here.Being "already" in America makes you incredibly privileged.I remember EE STEM PHD engineers earning better wages frying chicken in the US than doing what they have actually studied for back home. I am glad americans are finally acknowledging this phenomenon (BBT scene with russian janitor/physicist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZd8sDquNYw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZd8sDquNYw) but since this is not their problem it is overshadowed by your racial wars. It still makes me angry and sad though...