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Not even close. Fox literally lies and updated their manifest to suggest they’re entertainment and not fact based.

BitwiseFool 5y ago
>"updated their manifest to suggest they’re entertainment and not fact based." This is not new, nor exclusive to Fox. The Daily Show goes out of it's way to declare they aren't a news outlet, and Rachel Maddow also calls her program entertainment rather than news. Daily Show: Abandon News All Ye Who Enter Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Show#/media/File:TDS_Studio_Entrance.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Show#/media/File:TDS... "A Court Ruled Rachel Maddow's Viewers Know She Offers Exaggeration and Opinion, Not Facts": https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-court-ruled-rachel-maddows-viewers https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-court-ruled-rachel-maddow...
- gremloni 5y ago
  A satirical show on Comedy Central vs an entire news channel. You’re making my point.
  - BitwiseFool 5y ago
    Is there really a difference, though? To me this is all just "a rose by any other name" and calling something news vs entertainment is a distinction without a difference.
    - gremloni 5y ago
      Of course there’s a difference.
Clubber 5y ago
https://deadline.com/2021/08/rachel-maddow-msnbc-beat-oan-lawsuit-appeal-robert-herring-1234816713/ https://deadline.com/2021/08/rachel-maddow-msnbc-beat-oan-la... "No reasonable viewer could conclude that Maddow implied an assertion of objective fact,” the opinion penned by Judge Milan D. Smith added (read it here) of the suit OAN filed in the fall of 2020 with great flurry." "For her to exaggerate the facts and call OAN Russian propaganda was consistent with her tone up to that point, and the Court finds a reasonable viewer would not take the statement as factual given this context,” Bashant said in a reflection of the ever spirally and tawdry state of American political discourse. “The context of Maddow’s statement shows reasonable viewers would consider the contested statement to be her opinion." Fox does the same thing, presents opinion shows (23:30 of their 24 hour cycle) as news.
- Bhilai 5y ago
  Yup, Fox lawyers have claimed the same in court - https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-...
silent_cal 5y ago
All TV news is entertainment, with the possible exception of CSPAN.

>"updated their manifest to suggest they’re entertainment and not fact based." This is not new, nor exclusive to Fox. The Daily Show goes out of it's way to declare they aren't a news outlet, and Rachel Maddow also calls her program entertainment rather than news. Daily Show: Abandon News All Ye Who Enter Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Show#/media/File:TDS_Studio_Entrance.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Show#/media/File:TDS... "A Court Ruled Rachel Maddow's Viewers Know She Offers Exaggeration and Opinion, Not Facts": https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-court-ruled-rachel-maddows-viewers https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-court-ruled-rachel-maddow...

gremloni 5y ago
A satirical show on Comedy Central vs an entire news channel. You’re making my point.
- BitwiseFool 5y ago
  Is there really a difference, though? To me this is all just "a rose by any other name" and calling something news vs entertainment is a distinction without a difference.
  - gremloni 5y ago
    Of course there’s a difference.

Clubber 5y ago

https://deadline.com/2021/08/rachel-maddow-msnbc-beat-oan-lawsuit-appeal-robert-herring-1234816713/ https://deadline.com/2021/08/rachel-maddow-msnbc-beat-oan-la... "No reasonable viewer could conclude that Maddow implied an assertion of objective fact,” the opinion penned by Judge Milan D. Smith added (read it here) of the suit OAN filed in the fall of 2020 with great flurry." "For her to exaggerate the facts and call OAN Russian propaganda was consistent with her tone up to that point, and the Court finds a reasonable viewer would not take the statement as factual given this context,” Bashant said in a reflection of the ever spirally and tawdry state of American political discourse. “The context of Maddow’s statement shows reasonable viewers would consider the contested statement to be her opinion." Fox does the same thing, presents opinion shows (23:30 of their 24 hour cycle) as news.

Bhilai 5y ago
Yup, Fox lawyers have claimed the same in court - https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-...

silent_cal 5y ago

All TV news is entertainment, with the possible exception of CSPAN.