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i never said entertainment does not contribute to a surrounding industry, i was only pointing out that both sides have it. You are simply pointing out to an ins

by avh02 5y ago

i never said entertainment does not contribute to a surrounding industry, i was only pointing out that both sides have it. You are simply pointing out to an instance where the other one does not have an equivalent. Here, i'll do the same (with the same hand waviness): Your list states people in the "industries that specialise solely on art, fashion, and event management" - Intel's supply chain supports thousands of logistics jobs (pilots, truck/HGV drivers, mining raw materials) - the film industry does not have this at scale. My point is, you have moved from "intel doesn't want to be here - but these two industries do! so intel must be wrong" to saying that even though the net loss to the UK is larger in terms of the pure industry, that their surrounding industries bring in money (but apparently intel's doesn't compare to film industry awards ceremonies, which are HUGE MONEY) This is not the argument I wanted to make, but here: the chip industry enables the video game industry, which on it's own is larger than the movie industry. If you want to compare surrounding industries, there, I'm Done. [1] [1]: https://www.statista.com/topics/1763/gaming-in-the-united-kingdom/ https://www.statista.com/topics/1763/gaming-in-the-united-ki...

ghostwriter 5y ago
> i never said entertainment does not contribute to a surrounding industry, i was only pointing out that both sides have it. You are simply pointing out to an instance where the other one does not have an equivalent. exactly, even if you don't like it. I'm pointing at the opportunities that are being created regardless of any single entity's presence in the region, that you are not including into your original comparison. Other big profitable industries find the UK appealing for large long-term investments. You argue that there's "value lost in this limited context", I argue that the context is wrong and there's a bigger picture where Intel's current hesitation to establish a plant in the UK due to Brexit ramifications is irrelevant. It's irrelevant because Intel is a single player that will not necessarily hold its leadership in the next 10 years, whereas big industries such as Entertainment and Construction have already chosen and commited to their choice by making transactions and building the stuff in the UK, that is many independent companies that form those industries have made this decision and Brexit was not a decisive factor to them. And if it wasn't a decisive factor, then there should be other more important factors that make the UK more appealing to each and every one of them. > > This is not the argument I wanted to make, but here: the chip industry enables the video game industry, which on it's own is larger than the movie industry. If you want to compare surrounding industries, there, I'm Done. Intel is not the entire chip industry, thankfully.

by avh02 5y ago

ghostwriter 5y ago

> i never said entertainment does not contribute to a surrounding industry, i was only pointing out that both sides have it. You are simply pointing out to an instance where the other one does not have an equivalent. exactly, even if you don't like it. I'm pointing at the opportunities that are being created regardless of any single entity's presence in the region, that you are not including into your original comparison. Other big profitable industries find the UK appealing for large long-term investments. You argue that there's "value lost in this limited context", I argue that the context is wrong and there's a bigger picture where Intel's current hesitation to establish a plant in the UK due to Brexit ramifications is irrelevant. It's irrelevant because Intel is a single player that will not necessarily hold its leadership in the next 10 years, whereas big industries such as Entertainment and Construction have already chosen and commited to their choice by making transactions and building the stuff in the UK, that is many independent companies that form those industries have made this decision and Brexit was not a decisive factor to them. And if it wasn't a decisive factor, then there should be other more important factors that make the UK more appealing to each and every one of them. > > This is not the argument I wanted to make, but here: the chip industry enables the video game industry, which on it's own is larger than the movie industry. If you want to compare surrounding industries, there, I'm Done. Intel is not the entire chip industry, thankfully.