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>, this is the situation when you buy anything from anywhere else except the AppStore and we all get on with it just fine. No it isn't in my case because I do

by jasode 5y ago

>, this is the situation when you buy anything from anywhere else except the AppStore and we all get on with it just fine. No it isn't in my case because I don't use my Apple email anywhere else but Apple. It stays clean with zero spam in the inbox. Many services hide email addresses from sellers including ebay, Etsy, Craigslist, Amazon, etc. The key is that the granularity and quantity of managing email spam is reduced when all those intermediary platforms shield customer email addresses. I do have my own email domain and I can create throwaway email addresses which I use with many other websites but that's irrelevant if Apple decided to share my email with App Store developers. >You just decide if you trust the seller or not and block their emails if they're annoying. Why would I want the additional "mental tax" and decision tree of trust/distrust potential seller and then do extra digital housekeeping of blocking future spam? I'm still not paying any less (the court ruling said Apple is still entitled to 30% even with non-Apple payments) -- so what exactly do I gain? It looks like Paddle offers more benefits the seller but no compelling advantages to the buyer.

omnimus 5y ago
Paddle is not two way marketplace like ebay. It's a payment gateway focused on digital products. It's like Stripe and it's even harder to get in to use paddle because there are human checks where you have to prove what you are selling is allowed. What companies do with the emails is... up to them. But that goes for any payment processor.
- jasode 5y ago
  >Paddle is not two way marketplace like ebay. Yes I know that but that's not relevant to my point. My point is to emphasize the "hide the email" advantages. I should have wrote my sentence like this: - Many services (including many non-payment processor gateways) hide email addresses from sellers including ebay, Etsy, Craigslist, Amazon, etc. >What companies do with the emails is... up to them. But that goes for any payment processor. Not it does not for _any_ payment processor. E.g. Apple payment system does not reveal email addresses while PayPal does. Buyers then complain about followup spam because they paid via PayPal. The assertion of "what companies do with the emails is up to them" is true and yet it is missing the crucial point of the conversation. The distinction is a layer above that: systems that don't give the companies email addresses at all. The later text revision by Paddle that "sharing email is opt-in" is still suboptimal for consumers because that's just one more tedious item to doublecheck. I.e. is there a UI dark pattern that was silently switch from off to on. Apple payment eliminates that mental tax.

by jasode 5y ago

omnimus 5y ago

Paddle is not two way marketplace like ebay. It's a payment gateway focused on digital products. It's like Stripe and it's even harder to get in to use paddle because there are human checks where you have to prove what you are selling is allowed. What companies do with the emails is... up to them. But that goes for any payment processor.

jasode 5y ago
>Paddle is not two way marketplace like ebay. Yes I know that but that's not relevant to my point. My point is to emphasize the "hide the email" advantages. I should have wrote my sentence like this: - Many services (including many non-payment processor gateways) hide email addresses from sellers including ebay, Etsy, Craigslist, Amazon, etc. >What companies do with the emails is... up to them. But that goes for any payment processor. Not it does not for _any_ payment processor. E.g. Apple payment system does not reveal email addresses while PayPal does. Buyers then complain about followup spam because they paid via PayPal. The assertion of "what companies do with the emails is up to them" is true and yet it is missing the crucial point of the conversation. The distinction is a layer above that: systems that don't give the companies email addresses at all. The later text revision by Paddle that "sharing email is opt-in" is still suboptimal for consumers because that's just one more tedious item to doublecheck. I.e. is there a UI dark pattern that was silently switch from off to on. Apple payment eliminates that mental tax.