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So...having actually worked for companies in aerospace making rockets that leave the planet... The cost per kilogram to orbit today is likely around $2000. Th
by robomartin 5y ago
So...having actually worked for companies in aerospace making rockets that leave the planet...
The cost per kilogram to orbit today is likely around $2000. That same kilogram landing on the moon (I also worked on a device that will get to the moon's surface in a future Artemis mission and dealt with all the lander companies) is somewhere in the two million USD range.
And asteroid? And mining equipment? Well, it will be a lot more than that. 10x? 100x? No clue.
Let's assume the cost is the same. Lets' further assume we need, say, 50,000 kg in equipment, supplies and fuel/energy to get there, mine and bring it back.
At $2MM per kg this would mean a one-way trip cost of $100 billion dollars. Round trip? Let's call it $200 billion. My guess is that might bring back somewhere between 500 and 1,000 kg of whatever was mined.
This is all hypothetical, of course. Just having fun.
Let's say we mine gold. Current value per kg is about $60K. So, a thousand kilograms of gold brought back from an asteroid would yield $60 million dollars. That would represent a loss of $199,940,000,000 dollars.
Diamonds? They are worth about 1,000x more than gold per weight. That still represents a loss of $140 billion.
The same is the story with fabrication in space. Getting tools, equipment, energy production means and raw materials there and back cost tons of cash (literally). If it can be done in low orbit it's much more manageable, still tons of cash though. Try to move farther away from earth and costs go exponential very quickly.
Asteroid mining is one of those neat concepts that people keep talking about over the years. Fun and interesting, of course. I just don't see it ever making financial sense.
Minion on mars to build stuff on mars is a different matter. Well, it will still cost tons of cash to get everything there, but at least you don't have to bring it back!
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y agoThat would be (if at all) for the first mission only. The 'bootstrap'. And in-situ utilizing the shit out of anything available to build as much as possible of the equipment up there. And why would I care about the money? That's just a few wars, peanuts so to speak. By stopping that shit alone you'd burn way less carbon! See? Wheee! Anyways, read the book I suggested and see if it changes your assumptions, or not. edit: Btw. nobody needs gold from space. Maybe infrastructure needs gold in space. Be it for reflectors, wires, chips... don't know. Don't care about your experience either, because that tends to lead to institutional blindness and inability to think 'out of the box'.
- robomartin 5y ago> Don't care about your experience either, because that tends to lead to institutional blindness and inability to think 'out of the box' Very funny. Hey, if you ever need surgery, repeat the above to your experienced surgeon and ask that they bring over some dumb-shit with a two year old degree who can thing out of the box. Sit back. Relax. Enjoy. Oh, please.
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y agoYour'e welcome :) edit: Oh, btw: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qTDQ3MwvaE8/YTqD9G0zZyI/AAAAAAAAfSI/YPR70IahriERbsv0pRjaOSmDe9j284fIgCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/offensive-sexist-vintage-ads-.jpg https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qTDQ3MwvaE8/YTqD9G0zZyI/AAAAAAAAf...