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Maybe they would fare better if they were journalists rather than activists and propagandists...

by dmingod666 5y ago

pessimizer 5y ago
No, people trust activists and propagandists, because they know where they're coming from. The problem comes when people claiming to have some bizarre abstract Platonic neutrality are constantly lying to you in order to push you into the behavior that they would prefer you have. Activists and propagandists are far more honest, and are far more trusted by the public.
- dmingod666 5y ago
  Maybe honesty shouldn't be bizzare. Only if you wholesale buy into the 2 party divide will you think that facts are a foreign concept. There can be news people that are pro-truth, pro-citizen and not pro any party. That would look like the views of a normal person off the street who is not super into politics - the fourth pillar of democracy. Do you hate mixing religion with politics? Well, law with politics, news with politics and law enforcement / millitary with politics is the same toxic mixture that ends up stealing power from the citizen, who is supposed to be the most powerful entity in a functioning democracy..
p_j_w 5y ago
If that were the issue then people wouldn't be running to news sources like OANN, who are far more propagandistic and activist.
- dmingod666 5y ago
  I think it's injecting judgement and morality into news. Once news is flavored by political views and moral judgements people will pick the sources that show the correct reprehensible behaviour based on their world view.. One good attempt I've seen a while back was Sagar Enjetti and Crystal Ball with a show called 'The Rising' - It's on YouTube but produced quite well.. The guy has a republican tilt and the girl supports democrat politics and they have a very good rapport with each other - which results in both calling out holes in each others argument without being adverserial..

5 ms·

Maybe they would fare better if they were journalists rather than activists and propagandists...

by dmingod666 5y ago

Maybe they would fare better if they were journalists rather than activists and propagandists...

pessimizer 5y ago
No, people trust activists and propagandists, because they know where they're coming from. The problem comes when people claiming to have some bizarre abstract Platonic neutrality are constantly lying to you in order to push you into the behavior that they would prefer you have. Activists and propagandists are far more honest, and are far more trusted by the public.
- dmingod666 5y ago
  Maybe honesty shouldn't be bizzare. Only if you wholesale buy into the 2 party divide will you think that facts are a foreign concept. There can be news people that are pro-truth, pro-citizen and not pro any party. That would look like the views of a normal person off the street who is not super into politics - the fourth pillar of democracy. Do you hate mixing religion with politics? Well, law with politics, news with politics and law enforcement / millitary with politics is the same toxic mixture that ends up stealing power from the citizen, who is supposed to be the most powerful entity in a functioning democracy..
p_j_w 5y ago
If that were the issue then people wouldn't be running to news sources like OANN, who are far more propagandistic and activist.
- dmingod666 5y ago
  I think it's injecting judgement and morality into news. Once news is flavored by political views and moral judgements people will pick the sources that show the correct reprehensible behaviour based on their world view.. One good attempt I've seen a while back was Sagar Enjetti and Crystal Ball with a show called 'The Rising' - It's on YouTube but produced quite well.. The guy has a republican tilt and the girl supports democrat politics and they have a very good rapport with each other - which results in both calling out holes in each others argument without being adverserial..