I do think the idea of redemptive suffering unfortunately permeates (at least) American society too much. If someone else wants to suffer that's OK, but I feel

I do think the idea of redemptive suffering unfortunately permeates (at least) American society too much. If someone else wants to suffer that's OK, but I feel like it's baked into every day life too much and suffering just for suffering's sake is confused with being moral or working hard. I guess that's expected from a country founded by puritans though!