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Sorted 3: Tasks and calendar events in a unified timeline
- diogotozzi 5y agoNo Android version available, sad.
- harryworld 5y agoAndroid is on our roadmap
- threatofrain 5y agoFor context, Sorted is one of the more prominent productivity apps in the Apple ecosystem. They also have what appears to be a pretty nice privacy policy, which would be my concern for these apps that want integration with your calendar information. https://www.sortedapp.com/privacy https://www.sortedapp.com/privacy
- robcohen 5y agoSeems odd there’s only Apple calendar sync, and no direct google calendar sync.
- efields 5y agoMore ppl use the stock Apple calendars than you think. The advantages of google calendar disappeared once iCloud sync started working effortlessly.
- Eugeleo 5y agoI was unsure if I'm allowed to provide text context in a URL post. Thank you for doing that for me. Apart from the nice privacy policy, Sorted is really great for people like myself who tend to overfill their todo lists, and subsequently feel bad at the end of the day when they don't manage to complete everything. Sorted pushes me to assign time estimates to the task, which helps me to keep my todo-list for the day more realistic and manageable. I like it more than managing my todos in the calendar, as for example the Make Time people would probably like me to.
- appel 5y agoJust in case the webdev's here, the link to the Mac App Store appears to be fatfingered: > ... href="https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1306893526?pt=2028806&ct=SortedAppWebsite&mt=8https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1306893526?pt=2028806&ct=SortedAppWebsite&mt=8 https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1306893526?pt=20288..." target=...
- vikingcaffiene 5y ago> scheduling on a calendar is not scaleable > hyper scheduling Um.. what? I was a lot more interested in this product until I started reading the marketing copy. To me it reads like the worst of breed of Silicon Valley “solution looking for a problem speak”.
- theonlybutlet 5y agoReading scalable and hyperscheduling made me stressed, I don't need more things in my day. Maybe I just need a holiday...
- bennyp101 5y agoYea .. I'm not quite sure I get what it does really .. it just looks like a calendar, but in a list?
- Eugeleo 5y agoSee my other comment in this thread.
- Eugeleo 5y agoYeah, I don't love their communication / marketing as well. Basically, it is a todo manager, but with built-in first-class scheduling. You input your todos, assign time estimates, and Sorted helps you spread them out in your day, keeping your calendar events in mind. To explain the value in this, let me copy one of my comments in this thread: [...] Sorted is really great for people like myself who tend to overfill their todo lists, and subsequently feel bad at the end of the day when they don't manage to complete everything. Sorted pushes me to assign time estimates to the task, which helps me to keep my todo-list for the day more realistic and manageable. I like it more than managing my todos directly in the calendar [...].
- dotancohen 5y ago> Basically, it is a todo manager, but with built-in first-class scheduling. > You input your todos, assign time estimates, and Sorted helps > you spread them out in your day, keeping your calendar events in mind. So, it's like org-mode.
- jrnkntl 5y agoThings[1] has had this feature as long as I can remember. Just mentioning it since Sorted seems to be Mac/iOS only too and the title mentions this as its main feature. [1] https://culturedcode.com/things/ https://culturedcode.com/things/
- threatofrain 5y agoI noticed that Things clearly warns you when you import Reminders... that they will delete those imports from Reminders. Sorted doesn't appear to do the same. A big, bad oops IMO.
- bobbylarrybobby 5y agoThings does not let you assign durations to tasks, which is Sorted’s whole thing.
- loansarc 5y agoAvailable on Linux/pure webapp?
- endisneigh 5y agoI'm not sure what problem this solves. single-person scheduling is pretty easy already. it seems the main value prop is that you can assign durations, but you can do that with a calendar already.
- Eugeleo 5y agoA lot of people are asking this! Clearly they could do some work on marketing and communication. Let me quote my other comment in this thread: Basically, it is a todo manager, but with built-in first-class scheduling. You input your todos, assign time estimates, and Sorted helps you spread them out in your day, keeping your calendar events in mind. To explain the value in this, let me copy one of my comments in this thread: [...] Sorted is really great for people like myself who tend to overfill their todo lists, and subsequently feel bad at the end of the day when they don't manage to complete everything. Sorted pushes me to assign time estimates to the task, which helps me to keep my todo-list for the day more realistic and manageable. I like it more than managing my todos directly in the calendar [...].
- halldor 5y agoIt looks nice, but I don’t think it’s caught up with Sunsama yet!
- willyt 5y agoMight be interested but I would prefer it to use the system calendar and to-dos so that I can use it alongside these rather than instead of.
- nvrspyx 5y agoIt actually does use the system calendar, but for todos, it only imports from a single list in Reminders, which is the same as Things 3. This makes me think it might be a limitation with Reminders' API or something.
- speg 5y agoTried it out, had an empty list to start. Pulled to refresh. Crashed. I like the idea though, I like scheduling some things in calendar and others in reminders and like someone else mentioned; could be nice to work with both at once. I know someone else mentioned Things, and I do own a copy but stopped using it as I didn’t like having tasks outside of the default Reminders app. Hmm, importing reminders marks them as done in reminders? That’s no good. Also only limited to one reminders list?
- steve_adams_86 5y agoLikewise, the app crashed for me on a fresh install as soon as I touched a task. Things now integrates with Reminders.
- andrewmunsell 5y agoI'm not really sure I would consider it an "integration", but more of an "import"... As far as I know, Things will move Reminders into your Inbox but it's then removed from Reminders entirely. In contrast, I've been using GoodTask specifically because it integrates with Reminders (and keeps the tasks inside of Reminders too), mostly for the sync using my DAV server
- steve_adams_86 5y agoUgh, my bad. You’re right. It’s more of a reminders domination scheme than a cooperative feature. I wonder why Cultured Code decided to do it that way.
- hideo 5y agoIf this was a webapp I'd be willing to pay. I hadn't heard of Sorted before but I do this same technique of assigning a time estimate to every todo item and putting it on my calendar as an appointment. I have a side benefit of these task appointments blocking my calendar so other things can't get scheduled at the same time. Probably the two biggest peace-of-mind boosts in my life have been this, and blocking of large chunks of time for deep/focused work.
- coldtea 5y ago>If this was a webapp I'd be willing to pay. If this was a webapp, I'd skip it.
- endisneigh 5y agowhy?
- coldtea 5y agoBecause I want the performance, battery friendliness, UI coherency, and more importantly the integration with native functionality that native apps offer.
- atatatat 5y agoSo you want to use the app that the service has spent the most time polishing. That seems obvious. What doesn't it why you believe in today's web that that's impossible. PWA is the way forward.
- Eugeleo 5y agoThis is what I use it for! I got inspired by the book Make Time; I always have a lot of things on my plate, and I have a tendency to overfill my todo list with tasks which ultimately leads to me feeling bad for not managing to complete everything I set out to.
- danhoule 5y agoThis definitely helpful for some people, I also like the UI design. It looks modern and sleek.
- grsmvg 5y agoTo me it looks like they took most of their inspiration from Things 3
- mstipetic 5y agoA bit unrelated but I wish just once I'd like to see normal calendar items and life activities - drop kids off to kindergarden, go shopping, mow the grass, help friend move - instead of these "mediate, finish presentation, finalize mood board concepts"
- baxuz 5y agoIt's the same thing with most tech these days. Just try thinking of examples for voice assistants or any new tech. Most of it has this weird "Friends" but with a "rich millenial from SF" flavor marketing to it. Everything is made to feel super-important and productive, yet casual. It feels like they have a single persona: "[Dave/Alice] lives in SF. After a busy day hustling, they chase their side gig doing [photography/art/music production]. Later on in the evening, they contact all of their friends using [platform] to go downtown for a [coffee/sushi/craft beer]. While on their [Uber/Lyft] ride, they check the [stock market / sport scores / wikipedia trivia]. Back home, they use the voice assistant on [platform] to dim the lights in their studio apartment and watch the newest TV show on [streaming service]" Before bed, they finish the day by [meditating / reading a self-help book / listening to a self-improvement podcast]."
- Apocryphon 5y agoPerhaps the next business for that set would be “personal assistants, but remote gig worker”.
- harryworld 5y agoWe considered about this angle, may be giving it a try in our next update
- smoldesu 5y agoCompanies like Apple and Amazon investing heavily in the sex-appeal of consumer electronics didn't help this either.
- sigg3 5y ago
- mkwalter9 5y agoI use Sunsama for this already and have used Timepage (iOS app) in the past. Neither are free, but both have polish and extra features that imo make them worth what you do pay.
- Eugeleo 5y agoI'll check them out, thanks. Sorted is nice, but not on Things-level of polish.
- tra3 5y agoSunsama looks great. Is it in beta? I don't see any pricing info. Plan (https://getplan.co/ https://getplan.co/) is also very similar.
- Eugeleo 5y agoI also couldn’t find the pricing info, so I just blindly signed up for the closed beta. I’ve been guided through a short form, at the end of which I’ve learned that after a 14 day trial Sunsama will cost $20 a month (!), even for personal or any other non-commercial use.
- tra3 5y agoHah wow. I hope that's a typo.
- bvm 5y agothis looks useful...does anything like it exist for Android?
- zentiggr 5y agoI've had my eyes open for anything that does real dynamic rescheduling, sadly, no one has rediscovered this. See www.1soft.com, Above & Beyond does this rescheduling the real way, but it's only on Windows.
- blackbear_ 5y agoObservation: so many apps are just re-inventing subsets of Org-mode [1]. Conclusion: there is great potential in making Emacs more user-friendly. [1] https://orgmode.org/ https://orgmode.org/
- jolux 5y agoAbsolutely. I’m a huge Emacs fan and org-mode still feels too complicated for me.
- reddit_clone 5y agoYa big org-mode fan here. I try to get everything I do as a TODO item. Add the link to the Jira item in the title. When it is marked as DONE, it adds a journal entry into Org-Roam/Daily file automatically. Still haven't figured out how to use org-roam idiomatically.
- zentiggr 5y agoThe (from my point of view) canonical application like this is www.1soft.com's Above & Beyond. Sorted's hyperscheduling is a pale shadow of the fully implemented "Dynamic Scheduling" that A&B does. I've been looking for an Android implementation for forever, but 1soft apparently doesn't care about platforms beyond Windows. A true shame. Having worked with A&B when I used to be desktop bound years ago, it's almost painful to see some very few others stumbling around in the dark and almost getting to A&B's full algorithm. I wish I had the confidence and tools to go ahead and build the Android version I want!
- tra3 5y agoJust took a look at their website. "(c) 2003". The functionality looks pretty great, at least from what they describe. So sad to see really great apps stuck on windows. Reminds me a lot of Supermemo.
- smoldesu 5y agoIf you're looking for a similar (free) native app for Linux devices, I highly recommend checking out Planner[0]! Super clean and pretty UI, it reminds me of an older build of Things with all the best features fleshed out. It also integrates with Todoist, which I'm unfortunately tied to at the moment. Making matters worse, it functions perfectly, giving me no reason to replace them in my stack :( [0] https://appcenter.elementary.io/com.github.alainm23.planner/ https://appcenter.elementary.io/com.github.alainm23.planner/
- zentiggr 5y agoAny chance this could work on Android?
- dukeofdoom 5y agoAn app that makes intelligent decisions about tasks and how to organize them would be welcome. But I think its a hard problem. Tasks often require materials and procedures, kind of like a science lab. If you're going to cut the lawn, you might need more than the lawnmore. You might need canister of gas, hedge trimmers, gloves ... and so on. But it will also depend on the weather, if its rained or it rained the previous day, you might not be able to cut the grass. or the time will increase how long it takes you. If its too late in the day, it might be too dark, or you might not want to disrupt your neighbours, and so on. You might be out of gas and have to go buy some. You might not know where you left your trimmers last time. It just explodes into possibilities. So I think an app with good task management, would make the user write out a check list of materials, and repeatable procedure like a science lab. Then at the end have the user write set reminders what they need to buy/do for the next time.
- jerieljan 5y agoHmm, I've sort of accomplished this with Notion already, by working around in a single Calendar view with tasks written in pages and such. Of course, this looks a lot smarter with proper calendar integrations and nifty time adjustment controls, but I actually just needed a Calendar view of things and with the rest working like a to-do list with the occasional power to backlink with existing pages. Maybe I should give this a try.
- borvo 5y agoA time wasting animation delay before every single screen. A bit annoying for a "productivity app".
- atoav 5y agoYou know what I like? The vast, bright desert of a white piece of paper in front of me and there I will write what I plan to do next. And then I do it. All these apps try to sell you on "if only you use me you will gain focus", however a piece of paper forces one to think about what is going to happen next. You can write a lot. Or nothing. Your choice.
- harryworld 5y agoI’m the COO of the Team Sorted. Thanks Eugeleo for sharing Sorted³ here. I’m here to answer any question you may have for us. In reading the comments, I have already learned a lot. There are some mentioned apps that we didn’t know. We also get inspired by some other ideas. We’re a small remote team, but we’re doing our best to move fast. I appreciate the honest feedback and look forward to pick up your brains. Putting my comments in each thread.