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A fork from firefox, stripping it regularly of the add-tech, updating only from its own trusted source. Basically a open source project were the downstream is

A fork from firefox, stripping it regularly of the add-tech, updating only from its own trusted source. Basically a open source project were the downstream is considered hostile.

toyg 5y ago
That's unsustainable. It's what some projects already try to do with Chromium, and it just doesn't work: every time Google steers a bit more towards evil, the downstream burden increases significantly, and sooner or later the bad patches creep in anyway. There is an institutional problem at Mozilla, we should focus on fixing that rather than trying to come up with even more complex sticking plasters.
- OneTimePetes 5y ago
  Whats needed is a rebirth, basically the Mozilla team quits, creates a new mozilla inc and leaves the old one behind to go full chrome appocalypso. Basically what nature does when the elder generation acquires to many parasites and dna damages, spawn a new generation and die, taking most of the parasites with them.
  - drdec 5y ago
    Yes, the new browser would rise like a phoenix from the ashes, a firebird if you will...
- account42 5y ago
  > There is an institutional problem at Mozilla, we should focus on fixing that rather than trying to come up with even more complex sticking plasters. How do you fix that from the outside if not by forking or at least using a different Browser to make it clear that the current behavior is unacceptable.
  - toyg 5y ago
    Forking is an option only insofar as the forking team is actually capable of leading development. Purely reactive forks, like most of the ones we see in the Chromium world, are not sustainable in the long run. Is there a team, out there, who could fork FF and take it into a new direction? Maybe. But that has happened only once in the history of Mozilla, and it was paid for by Mozilla itself, because it's a huge task.

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A fork from firefox, stripping it regularly of the add-tech, updating only from its own trusted source. Basically a open source project were the downstream is

by OneTimePetes 5y ago

A fork from firefox, stripping it regularly of the add-tech, updating only from its own trusted source. Basically a open source project were the downstream is considered hostile.

toyg 5y ago
That's unsustainable. It's what some projects already try to do with Chromium, and it just doesn't work: every time Google steers a bit more towards evil, the downstream burden increases significantly, and sooner or later the bad patches creep in anyway. There is an institutional problem at Mozilla, we should focus on fixing that rather than trying to come up with even more complex sticking plasters.
- OneTimePetes 5y ago
  Whats needed is a rebirth, basically the Mozilla team quits, creates a new mozilla inc and leaves the old one behind to go full chrome appocalypso. Basically what nature does when the elder generation acquires to many parasites and dna damages, spawn a new generation and die, taking most of the parasites with them.
  - drdec 5y ago
    Yes, the new browser would rise like a phoenix from the ashes, a firebird if you will...
- account42 5y ago
  > There is an institutional problem at Mozilla, we should focus on fixing that rather than trying to come up with even more complex sticking plasters. How do you fix that from the outside if not by forking or at least using a different Browser to make it clear that the current behavior is unacceptable.
  - toyg 5y ago
    Forking is an option only insofar as the forking team is actually capable of leading development. Purely reactive forks, like most of the ones we see in the Chromium world, are not sustainable in the long run. Is there a team, out there, who could fork FF and take it into a new direction? Maybe. But that has happened only once in the history of Mozilla, and it was paid for by Mozilla itself, because it's a huge task.