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Calling out a common problem with Chinese research is not racism. There is a real problem here, and it needs to be called out and fixed. That won't happen if it

Calling out a common problem with Chinese research is not racism. There is a real problem here, and it needs to be called out and fixed. That won't happen if it gets ignored by everyone.

shusaku 5y ago
Calling out a problem with Chinese research in general is fine. Asserting that an individual piece of research should be dismissed due to broader trends related to one’s race instead of evaluating it on its own merit is racist. And it’s even worse in this article where the comment refers to an unrelated article which has flaws that clearly don’t exist in this paper’s case (as such a study could not be a product of a paper mill). This fact should be obvious to anyone who has thought critically about the fundamental reason why racism is wrong for more than five minutes.
- prepend 5y ago
  I think this is more like branding. When University of Phoenix was around, it had a bad brand. I wouldn’t spend much time thinking about papers written by UoP people because so many were trash. It’s possible some were good. When it comes to academic research, China is the University of Phoenix. That’s not racism, it’s bad brand reputation.
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  - freetinker 5y ago
    You just defined racism.
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    - prepend 5y ago
      Countries aren’t races. This is a problem unique to China, not Chinese people. Other countries in East and South Asia don’t have this problem. ABC is the US don’t have this problem. Non-Chinese at Chinese institutions share this problem. I don’t think the issue is based on race at all, but based on bad decisions made by the CCP and the cultural impact of those decisions. Is it racist to say the University of Phoenix doesn’t produce reputable papers?
      - windsignaling 5y ago
        Name any authors from China but of non-Chinese ethnicity you believe are problematic. We went from one scientific study, to another totally unrelated scientific study, to the CCP. What does the CCP have to do with the study in question?
  - windsignaling 5y ago
    "The people of this country can't be trusted". Totally not racism...

Calling out a common problem with Chinese research is not racism. There is a real problem here, and it needs to be called out and fixed. That won't happen if it gets ignored by everyone.

shusaku 5y ago

Calling out a problem with Chinese research in general is fine. Asserting that an individual piece of research should be dismissed due to broader trends related to one’s race instead of evaluating it on its own merit is racist. And it’s even worse in this article where the comment refers to an unrelated article which has flaws that clearly don’t exist in this paper’s case (as such a study could not be a product of a paper mill). This fact should be obvious to anyone who has thought critically about the fundamental reason why racism is wrong for more than five minutes.

prepend 5y ago
I think this is more like branding. When University of Phoenix was around, it had a bad brand. I wouldn’t spend much time thinking about papers written by UoP people because so many were trash. It’s possible some were good. When it comes to academic research, China is the University of Phoenix. That’s not racism, it’s bad brand reputation.
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- freetinker 5y ago
  You just defined racism.
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  - prepend 5y ago
    Countries aren’t races. This is a problem unique to China, not Chinese people. Other countries in East and South Asia don’t have this problem. ABC is the US don’t have this problem. Non-Chinese at Chinese institutions share this problem. I don’t think the issue is based on race at all, but based on bad decisions made by the CCP and the cultural impact of those decisions. Is it racist to say the University of Phoenix doesn’t produce reputable papers?
    - windsignaling 5y ago
      Name any authors from China but of non-Chinese ethnicity you believe are problematic. We went from one scientific study, to another totally unrelated scientific study, to the CCP. What does the CCP have to do with the study in question?
- windsignaling 5y ago
  "The people of this country can't be trusted". Totally not racism...