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I think he’s just getting in a cheap shot at the post he’s replying to, whose author happened to be Polish. As you say, it’s whataboutism - nothing that the P

I think he’s just getting in a cheap shot at the post he’s replying to, whose author happened to be Polish. As you say, it’s whataboutism - nothing that the Polish people think is in any way relevant to the disgusting anti-foreigner media frenzy of the right-wing press prior to Brexit. Brexit was xenophobia in a sheer dress, made up to the nines, and wiggling its way down a Tory-blue carpet dragging the mindless and the easily-led along behind. It was opium for the masses while the masters made a killing. It was tragedy. Brexit may mean Brexit (whatever that was supposed to mean), but it translates to the real world as “Bullshit” very well. Oh, and I’m a Brit.

jollybean 5y ago
"Nothing that the Polish people think is in any way relevant to the disgusting anti-foreigner media frenzy of the right-wing press prior to Brexit." This is complete nonsense. I've presented direct evidence that the UK is the least hostile to migrants in all of Europe - and would add these Pew polls (and other studies) are quite consistent among one another - and quite consistent over time as well. You'll find that PISA test scoring (see 2018 results) shows that the UK stands alone in Europe whereupon immigrant children score just as well as UK born children, once normalizing for income (i.e. middle class immigrants do just as well as middle class UK born), while in Germany, Sweden, and even Finland which is noted for it's academic excellence, completely fail their migrant children, with migrants scoring considerably lower than locally born students. It's counter rational and factual nonsense that the UK is hostile to migrants overall, or that the 'right wing' hates or is bigoted towards migrants. It's entirely reasonable for a nation to want to have control over it's migration policy, even Quebec, a Province of Canada, which is not even a legal nation - has control over it's own migration ingress. The purposeful conflation of the reasonable position of 'Controlling migration policy and having fewer migrants', with the more extreme position of 'Right wing rabid migrant hate', is one of the many 'Big Lies' of the EU authoritarians.

jollybean 5y ago

"Nothing that the Polish people think is in any way relevant to the disgusting anti-foreigner media frenzy of the right-wing press prior to Brexit." This is complete nonsense. I've presented direct evidence that the UK is the least hostile to migrants in all of Europe - and would add these Pew polls (and other studies) are quite consistent among one another - and quite consistent over time as well. You'll find that PISA test scoring (see 2018 results) shows that the UK stands alone in Europe whereupon immigrant children score just as well as UK born children, once normalizing for income (i.e. middle class immigrants do just as well as middle class UK born), while in Germany, Sweden, and even Finland which is noted for it's academic excellence, completely fail their migrant children, with migrants scoring considerably lower than locally born students. It's counter rational and factual nonsense that the UK is hostile to migrants overall, or that the 'right wing' hates or is bigoted towards migrants. It's entirely reasonable for a nation to want to have control over it's migration policy, even Quebec, a Province of Canada, which is not even a legal nation - has control over it's own migration ingress. The purposeful conflation of the reasonable position of 'Controlling migration policy and having fewer migrants', with the more extreme position of 'Right wing rabid migrant hate', is one of the many 'Big Lies' of the EU authoritarians.