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I don't know you, but you come off as quite pretentious. I work for a charity/non-profit but that doesn't prevent me from seeing the value in a shared good exp

I don't know you, but you come off as quite pretentious. I work for a charity/non-profit but that doesn't prevent me from seeing the value in a shared good experiment. Asides from the myriad of other issues in your post, the most important one is that you completely ignore the fact that many people may donate quite a bit to charity, but also may wish to involve themselves in a thing like Jonathan's card. The two are not mutually exclusive, and deriving value from the latter may encourage someone to do more of the former. It looks like you were too short-sighted to actually think any of this through though in your attempt to make a selfish point.

catch23 15y ago
And you come off as a person with a holier-than-thou attitude. What's wrong with thinking about an experiment that hacks the original experiment? I thought this was Hacker News.
- burgerbrain 15y ago
  There is nothing wrong with thinking about an experiment that hacks the original experiment. There is however something wrong with the statement "is pursuing art (or whatsver) admitting to yourself that you value art more than world hunger? After all, that's how you're allocating your resources." That something is that it is pretentious as fuck.
Karhan 15y ago
short-sighted is the perfect word here. Its possible that without his deliberate abuse this small project would have encouraged people to be more charitable to causes like the one he wants to donate to. The value of those donations over a lifetime could well have exceeded his little cash grab several times. Instead this has just made people distrust the idea of giving money away a little bit more.
Karhan 15y ago
short-sighted is the perfect word here. Its possible that without his deliberate abuse this small project would have encouraged people to be more charitable to causes like the one he wants to donate to. The value of those donations over a lifetime could well have exceeded his little cash grab several times. Instead this has just made people distrust the idea of giving money away a little bit more.
djchung 15y ago
Fwiw, I do know Sam and can vouch that he is not pretentious or has a holier than thou attitude. How would participating in Jonathan's card encourage donating to charity? Adding more money to Jonathan's card is not charity. One could even argue that if you knew Sam was doing this, adding money to Jonathan's card so that Sam would donate the money is charity.

catch23 15y ago

And you come off as a person with a holier-than-thou attitude. What's wrong with thinking about an experiment that hacks the original experiment? I thought this was Hacker News.

burgerbrain 15y ago
There is nothing wrong with thinking about an experiment that hacks the original experiment. There is however something wrong with the statement "is pursuing art (or whatsver) admitting to yourself that you value art more than world hunger? After all, that's how you're allocating your resources." That something is that it is pretentious as fuck.

Karhan 15y ago

short-sighted is the perfect word here. Its possible that without his deliberate abuse this small project would have encouraged people to be more charitable to causes like the one he wants to donate to. The value of those donations over a lifetime could well have exceeded his little cash grab several times. Instead this has just made people distrust the idea of giving money away a little bit more.

Karhan 15y ago

djchung 15y ago

Fwiw, I do know Sam and can vouch that he is not pretentious or has a holier than thou attitude. How would participating in Jonathan's card encourage donating to charity? Adding more money to Jonathan's card is not charity. One could even argue that if you knew Sam was doing this, adding money to Jonathan's card so that Sam would donate the money is charity.