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> In a 2017 Pew Research Center survey, 71% of U.S. adults said being able to support a family financially is very important for a man to be a good spouse or pa

> In a 2017 Pew Research Center survey, 71% of U.S. adults said being able to support a family financially is very important for a man to be a good spouse or partner. Sad to see this harmful stereotype still being perpetuated. Men need to be empowered to be stay-at-home spouses. Being a dad is a fulltime job.

toomuchtodo 5y ago
I’ve long given up on this idea that it’s perpetuated. If people want something, that’s what they want, no different than having a race or body type preference in a partner. What’s the alternative, to tell people the relationship attributes they want is wrong? Can’t squeeze the human out of the person. In similar fashion, educated women won’t date down, while men will [1]. Should we tell them that’s wrong? I don’t think that’s reasonable nor feasible. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=educated+women+dont+date+down https://www.google.com/search?q=educated+women+dont+date+dow... (quick glance through first two pages of results)
- hindsightbias 5y ago
  Educated women will have to date down unless other support structures help with child rearing. Possible, but anecdotally I’m starting to see this where the men aren’t toxic or incelly in behavior. The young men work, but aren’t the dominant breadwinners. I think in previous generations there was a status issue with working women but the latest generation isn’t as hung up on that. Given how many of them probably grew up in divorced homes they’re going to be more pragmatic about their spouses.
post_from_work 5y ago
>>>Sad to see this harmful stereotype still being perpetuated. Men need to be empowered to be stay-at-home spouses. Studies and anecdata indicate that stay-at-home husbands have higher divorce rates, and lower rates of spousal satisfaction.[1][2] In other words, the wives who say they are comfortable with their husbands sitting at home with the kids...actually aren't. Trying to socially engineer that out of women's psyches will be about as successful as trying to convince them to date men who are shorter than them. [1]https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/parenting/fathers-day/stay-at-home-husbands-more-likely-to-divorce-study/article615833/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/parenting/fathers-day/s... [2]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3710922/The-REAL-reason-modern-marriages-end-Women-likely-divorce-stay-home-dads-fail-live-breadwinner-stereotype.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3710922/The-...
mensetmanusman 5y ago
Evolution and Darwinism might have a differing opinion though…
mbrodersen 5y ago
Woman are smart enough to prefer men who are more successful in life. That is not going to change any time soon.

toomuchtodo 5y ago

I’ve long given up on this idea that it’s perpetuated. If people want something, that’s what they want, no different than having a race or body type preference in a partner. What’s the alternative, to tell people the relationship attributes they want is wrong? Can’t squeeze the human out of the person. In similar fashion, educated women won’t date down, while men will [1]. Should we tell them that’s wrong? I don’t think that’s reasonable nor feasible. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=educated+women+dont+date+down https://www.google.com/search?q=educated+women+dont+date+dow... (quick glance through first two pages of results)

hindsightbias 5y ago
Educated women will have to date down unless other support structures help with child rearing. Possible, but anecdotally I’m starting to see this where the men aren’t toxic or incelly in behavior. The young men work, but aren’t the dominant breadwinners. I think in previous generations there was a status issue with working women but the latest generation isn’t as hung up on that. Given how many of them probably grew up in divorced homes they’re going to be more pragmatic about their spouses.

post_from_work 5y ago

>>>Sad to see this harmful stereotype still being perpetuated. Men need to be empowered to be stay-at-home spouses. Studies and anecdata indicate that stay-at-home husbands have higher divorce rates, and lower rates of spousal satisfaction.[1][2] In other words, the wives who say they are comfortable with their husbands sitting at home with the kids...actually aren't. Trying to socially engineer that out of women's psyches will be about as successful as trying to convince them to date men who are shorter than them. [1]https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/parenting/fathers-day/stay-at-home-husbands-more-likely-to-divorce-study/article615833/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/parenting/fathers-day/s... [2]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3710922/The-REAL-reason-modern-marriages-end-Women-likely-divorce-stay-home-dads-fail-live-breadwinner-stereotype.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3710922/The-...

mensetmanusman 5y ago

Evolution and Darwinism might have a differing opinion though…

mbrodersen 5y ago

Woman are smart enough to prefer men who are more successful in life. That is not going to change any time soon.