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"Employee hand books" are useful to employees as it defines what various procedures and rights are.

ethbr0 5y ago
Ah, so employee handbooks inform their employees of their right to unionize (or refrain from unionizing) without threatening, interrogating, spying on pro-union employees, or promising benefits if employees forget about forming a union? https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/interfering-with-employee-rights-section-7-8a1 https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/in...
- _3u10 5y ago
  Why would anyone making salary in the 1% (top 0.001% globally) range in the US want to unionize? I don’t get this whole anti tech thing from tech.
  - walshemj 5y ago
    Why not George Clooney is a member of SAG (actors union) as is Daniel Craig.
    - tick_tock_tick 5y ago
      That's just an example of an argument people make against unions. No matter what Clooney or Craig thinks they have no choice but to be a member of the SAG.
  - ethbr0 5y ago
    Because wealth and morality are independent concepts.
  - dgb23 5y ago
    Unions are not “anti-tech”, they are “pro-worker”. Who else is?
howtoquitwell 5y ago
Procedures and policies, yet. Rights, not so much, at least beyond those disclosures and documents they are legally required to share. As an example: it is a legally-protected right in many jurisdictions for employees to share compensation information with each other, or even externally. Many (most?) employers strongly discourage this practice, however, and will usually omit the notice that there are legal restrictions on their response in case employees choose to do so. Ditto labor organizing, many types of guaranteed leave, and most whistleblowing protections. The information asymmetry between most large employers and their employees w.r.t. legal rights is large, and the company's incentives are almost never aligned towards voluntary disclosure.
- walshemj 5y ago
  Yes you have valid points but it does help when you have to take legal action - break your own procedure on grievance / discipline and you tend to lose in court.
  - el_ravager 5y ago
    Which is why it's sometimes necessary to go above the court and take the information straight to the people.
    - walshemj 5y ago
      Whistleblowing and Employee hand books are two separate things

Ah, so employee handbooks inform their employees of their right to unionize (or refrain from unionizing) without threatening, interrogating, spying on pro-union employees, or promising benefits if employees forget about forming a union? https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/interfering-with-employee-rights-section-7-8a1 https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/in...

_3u10 5y ago
Why would anyone making salary in the 1% (top 0.001% globally) range in the US want to unionize? I don’t get this whole anti tech thing from tech.
- walshemj 5y ago
  Why not George Clooney is a member of SAG (actors union) as is Daniel Craig.
  - tick_tock_tick 5y ago
    That's just an example of an argument people make against unions. No matter what Clooney or Craig thinks they have no choice but to be a member of the SAG.
- ethbr0 5y ago
  Because wealth and morality are independent concepts.
- dgb23 5y ago
  Unions are not “anti-tech”, they are “pro-worker”. Who else is?

howtoquitwell 5y ago

Procedures and policies, yet. Rights, not so much, at least beyond those disclosures and documents they are legally required to share. As an example: it is a legally-protected right in many jurisdictions for employees to share compensation information with each other, or even externally. Many (most?) employers strongly discourage this practice, however, and will usually omit the notice that there are legal restrictions on their response in case employees choose to do so. Ditto labor organizing, many types of guaranteed leave, and most whistleblowing protections. The information asymmetry between most large employers and their employees w.r.t. legal rights is large, and the company's incentives are almost never aligned towards voluntary disclosure.

walshemj 5y ago
Yes you have valid points but it does help when you have to take legal action - break your own procedure on grievance / discipline and you tend to lose in court.
- el_ravager 5y ago
  Which is why it's sometimes necessary to go above the court and take the information straight to the people.
  - walshemj 5y ago
    Whistleblowing and Employee hand books are two separate things