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Apple shouldn’t be interfering with other businesses and their users like this. It’s sad to see people here celebrating their inability to run unapproved softwa

Apple shouldn’t be interfering with other businesses and their users like this. It’s sad to see people here celebrating their inability to run unapproved software.

nerdjon 5y ago
This is the cost of gaining access to users in iPhone. This also has nothing to do with unapproved software. The idea that a user can actually delete their data from your servers should not be a controversial topic. But of course it is for businesses and developers, which is why Apple has to make a policy like this. As a user I am very happy with this.
- echelon 5y ago
  > This is the cost of gaining access to users in iPhone. 50+% of Americans for everything they do, say, buy, etc. This is a monopoly by sheer volume and scale of their reach.
  - nerdjon 5y ago
    Maybe it’s time to realize that consumers continue to choose a more locked down platform for policies like this? Businesses will continue to complain but this protects the user.
echelon 5y ago
Call and email your representatives like I do. You're not going to find support in a forum with 60+% Apple users. A lot of these people work for or have stock in this company. They don't see how this is a roadblock to competition and that this device is now in the critical path of 50+% of commerce. (Maybe they'll care more when they have to compete.)
- detaro 5y ago
  Meh. I don't own Apple devices, am always arguing they shouldn't force apps to go through the app store and at the same time find this a very reasonable restriction for the app store to have.
- burnished 5y ago
  >>A lot of these people work for or have stock in this company You wouldn't happen to work or have stock in a company negatively impacted by this change? I don't have any interest in apple and don't use their products, but I'm really struggling to see how preventing the scummy strat of making sign up easy but deletion/deactivation difficult is some how a 'roadblock to competition'. You're gonna have to make a much stronger argument to get any traction.

Apple shouldn’t be interfering with other businesses and their users like this. It’s sad to see people here celebrating their inability to run unapproved software.

nerdjon 5y ago

This is the cost of gaining access to users in iPhone. This also has nothing to do with unapproved software. The idea that a user can actually delete their data from your servers should not be a controversial topic. But of course it is for businesses and developers, which is why Apple has to make a policy like this. As a user I am very happy with this.

echelon 5y ago
> This is the cost of gaining access to users in iPhone. 50+% of Americans for everything they do, say, buy, etc. This is a monopoly by sheer volume and scale of their reach.
- nerdjon 5y ago
  Maybe it’s time to realize that consumers continue to choose a more locked down platform for policies like this? Businesses will continue to complain but this protects the user.

echelon 5y ago

Call and email your representatives like I do. You're not going to find support in a forum with 60+% Apple users. A lot of these people work for or have stock in this company. They don't see how this is a roadblock to competition and that this device is now in the critical path of 50+% of commerce. (Maybe they'll care more when they have to compete.)

detaro 5y ago
Meh. I don't own Apple devices, am always arguing they shouldn't force apps to go through the app store and at the same time find this a very reasonable restriction for the app store to have.
burnished 5y ago
>>A lot of these people work for or have stock in this company You wouldn't happen to work or have stock in a company negatively impacted by this change? I don't have any interest in apple and don't use their products, but I'm really struggling to see how preventing the scummy strat of making sign up easy but deletion/deactivation difficult is some how a 'roadblock to competition'. You're gonna have to make a much stronger argument to get any traction.