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> you have zero personal experience with depression. I hope you never experience it- it's hell. Do not even begin to assume what I have been through. The diffe

> you have zero personal experience with depression. I hope you never experience it- it's hell. Do not even begin to assume what I have been through. The difference you might be failing to realise in your long essay on the behalf of others is that to go "through" something is to come out the other side. You've already made your assumptions so I highly doubt you'll listen to me much further, not do I want to gain "e-points" by listing out all my ailments. I can assure you however, that I have received professional help for both depression and other mental conditions in my life. The difference being, that my doctors and I were able to look at the root causes, and able to work out of it. Meds were weaned off as soon as I was put on them, and not looked at as a source of pharmacy income the rest of my life. Nor, now, a brainwashing device that can zap you for your hourly dose of Facebook ads. Thanks science. By a large margin, the reason people get depressed is because their life is at odds with their expectations. The father is depressed because they want freedom. The teen is depressed because they want to feel genuine love, etc. The only way out of that is to calm (which meds can temporarily help) then figure out a plan to make the life they do want, then actively working towards that, while managing expectations and inevitable disappointments. Sunlight and physical activity goes a long way in putting the body's regulation system back into action. Everyone just gets stuck up on "ok, meds." And don't follow through with the rest of it - actually improve your life - and expects everything to be better somehow. Painkillers while keeping the hand on the stove. Tldr get fuxked

bigwavedave 5y ago
It's not the conclusions I've drawn based on your own dismissive words that will prevent me from putting stock in what you say, it's the way you seem to believe that it's impossible for others to have experiences that differ from yours. I'm not the only one making assumptions here, the difference is that I'm making assumptions about you based on what you say- you're making assumptions about the whole of humanity based on your own experience. It really blows my mind that you're convinced that what worked for you is a panacea. Of course, saying things like "Tldr get fuxked" doesn't lend your words any strength either, so I guess I shouldn't be so surprised at such a limited perspective; forgive me if I stop giving you my attention. I hope you have a pleasant day nonetheless- best of luck to you and your loved ones.
- drekipus 5y ago
  If i asked you to point out a flaw in my reasoning you'd say "but I'm not well versed in the /science/" - I'm making assumptions based purely off that /science/. If you're saying that it's all just goobly-gook and random chance and everyone's different then I'd see that you'd have no problem injecting yourself with microchips to make yourself feel better, tailored by your ad preferences. It really blows my mind that you're thinking this is the most valiant hill to die on; like depression is some great enigma that's plagued humanity. It's as common as a headache. People like you stop others from getting better. "yeah you're right, some people are unsavable, definitely need meds. meds are the only way out right now. no don't listen to others who've gotten better. some people definitely have no hope and definitely need meds"

bigwavedave 5y ago

It's not the conclusions I've drawn based on your own dismissive words that will prevent me from putting stock in what you say, it's the way you seem to believe that it's impossible for others to have experiences that differ from yours. I'm not the only one making assumptions here, the difference is that I'm making assumptions about you based on what you say- you're making assumptions about the whole of humanity based on your own experience. It really blows my mind that you're convinced that what worked for you is a panacea. Of course, saying things like "Tldr get fuxked" doesn't lend your words any strength either, so I guess I shouldn't be so surprised at such a limited perspective; forgive me if I stop giving you my attention. I hope you have a pleasant day nonetheless- best of luck to you and your loved ones.

drekipus 5y ago
If i asked you to point out a flaw in my reasoning you'd say "but I'm not well versed in the /science/" - I'm making assumptions based purely off that /science/. If you're saying that it's all just goobly-gook and random chance and everyone's different then I'd see that you'd have no problem injecting yourself with microchips to make yourself feel better, tailored by your ad preferences. It really blows my mind that you're thinking this is the most valiant hill to die on; like depression is some great enigma that's plagued humanity. It's as common as a headache. People like you stop others from getting better. "yeah you're right, some people are unsavable, definitely need meds. meds are the only way out right now. no don't listen to others who've gotten better. some people definitely have no hope and definitely need meds"