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Out of curiosity, how difficult is it to migrate to Scandinavia as an American? I've long felt the ideals i cherish as an American are just not the ideals of Am

Out of curiosity, how difficult is it to migrate to Scandinavia as an American? I've long felt the ideals i cherish as an American are just not the ideals of America. Maybe America isn't wrong, i'm just not American. I want: A country which values it's citizens health and happiness in measurable, quantifiable ways. A country which ensures it's citizens can be educated and follow their passions to financial success. A country which allows even poor citizens to take risks like opening a business or going to school _(if you can call that a risk)_ without going into crippling debt or becoming homeless if you fail. A country where a health emergency won't leave middle class workers in crippling debt. A country where a job is enough to ensure you can have a roof over your head and food on the table. Scandinavia may or may not match all of those, but that's not my point - it feels to me Americans don't want this. To me Americans value "freedom" (as ephemeral as that may be) and low taxes so heavily that the above items are nearly irrelevant if they conflict with that. This isn't a dig at America, rather i'm simply saying maybe i need to stop voting so "lefty" and find some place more inline with myself?

ravitation 5y ago
While I think Scandinavia might be ideal, one need not limit oneself to only those countries. Essentially all other developed nations are noticeably better at providing the things you've listed to the majority of their citizens than the United States.
oh_sigh 5y ago
If you can easily migrate to Scandinavia from America, then you are almost certainly a well educated, talented, wealthy American who will not be subject to any of the vagaries of life that poor Americans may need to deal with. Healthcare, education, housing, and lifestyle are all top notch for the set of Americans that can easily emigrate to other first-world countries. In fact, you will find that it is much more common for people with high levels of education or marketable skills to migrate to the US, versus those people migrating from the US to whatever country.
- lijogdfljk 5y ago
  > If you can easily migrate to Scandinavia from America, then you are almost certainly a well educated, talented, wealthy American who will not be subject to any of the vagaries of life that poor Americans may need to deal with. Healthcare, education, housing, and lifestyle are all top notch for the set of Americans that can easily emigrate to other first-world countries. I maybe am. No formal education, but self taught and we live very comfortably. However this isn't about "me". I want a country that feels like it's trying to do better for all. America seems very selfish to me. I want to aid and support a government that actively works towards the bullet points i mentioned, not against.

ravitation 5y ago

While I think Scandinavia might be ideal, one need not limit oneself to only those countries. Essentially all other developed nations are noticeably better at providing the things you've listed to the majority of their citizens than the United States.

oh_sigh 5y ago

If you can easily migrate to Scandinavia from America, then you are almost certainly a well educated, talented, wealthy American who will not be subject to any of the vagaries of life that poor Americans may need to deal with. Healthcare, education, housing, and lifestyle are all top notch for the set of Americans that can easily emigrate to other first-world countries. In fact, you will find that it is much more common for people with high levels of education or marketable skills to migrate to the US, versus those people migrating from the US to whatever country.

lijogdfljk 5y ago
> If you can easily migrate to Scandinavia from America, then you are almost certainly a well educated, talented, wealthy American who will not be subject to any of the vagaries of life that poor Americans may need to deal with. Healthcare, education, housing, and lifestyle are all top notch for the set of Americans that can easily emigrate to other first-world countries. I maybe am. No formal education, but self taught and we live very comfortably. However this isn't about "me". I want a country that feels like it's trying to do better for all. America seems very selfish to me. I want to aid and support a government that actively works towards the bullet points i mentioned, not against.