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I feel like at least twice a year, there is some story like "Zodiac Killer Finally Identified" or "DB Cooper Finally Found". And behind these stories is usually
by Ansil849 5y ago
I feel like at least twice a year, there is some story like "Zodiac Killer Finally Identified" or "DB Cooper Finally Found". And behind these stories is usually just one person or group of people who are presenting their pet theory (which highlighted all facts supporting it, and conveniently brushes aside all facts which don't) and have savy media contacts so are able to get media exposure to help promote what's frequently accompanied by a book they are trying to sell copies of.
I don't know if that's the case here, but this pattern of events has made me just tune out stories like this. I wish media outlets would be more critical.
- codazoda 5y agoIt seems like even the article contradicts what this group says... > "Our Homicide Cold Case Unit has determined the murder of Cheri Jo Bates in 1966 is not related to the Zodiac killer," the Riverside Police Department's Homicide Cold Case Unit told Fox News.
- bogwog 5y agoIt seems like the group asked the police department to test the DNA found in the Bates case to confirm it once and for all, but the police department has refused. So there's probably some internal politics thing going on here.
- pwinnski 5y agoThe FBI says it is related, the local PD says it is not, and to ask the FBI. The local PD is also refusing to do DNA tests which would resolve the issue.
- Ansil849 5y ago> The local PD is also refusing to do DNA tests which would resolve the issue. Yeah, mean ol' law enforcement, refusing to do DNA tests for any crank mystery squad solving team that demands them.
- tacocataco 5y agoIf the group wants to incurr the costs what does it matter?
- _jal 5y agoBecause if they start doing it, they'll get more requests to do it in the future. And then they'd have to make more process around it and pay people to execute that process, and then they're in the business of selling small bits of criminal evidence to random cranks.
- saturnV 5y agoThere is probably not an infinite supply of dna evidence, and testing it is destructive. So I can imagine they don’t want to testany plausible theory but save it for when they are really convinced.
- jmnicolas 5y agoDon't forget Jack The Ripper!
- nobody9999 5y ago>Don't forget Jack The Ripper! That's a mystery long solved, friend[0]. [0] https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Sebastian#History https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Sebastian#History
- Diederich 5y agoEmmy award nominated Babylon 5 episode! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comes_the_Inquisitor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comes_the_Inquisitor One of the best, among many, of the series.
- fhood 5y agoAt least the Zodiac killer is recent enough for uncovering their identity to feel sort of feasible. That said, I personally find the idea of it being Ted Cruz so amusing that I see little reason to amend my head-canon, regardless of evidence presented.
- philwelch 5y agoI believe that would require time travel.
- friedegg 5y ago"Asked how a teenage boy could've committed a crime more than two decades ago, a police spokesman explained 'He's very clever.'"
- dandelany 5y agoI’m honestly so tired of hearing this lame conspiracy theory/in-joke. It’s so dumb and trollish and barely funny, all it does is give ammo to repubs who think dems are wackadoos. Fellow dems, this ain’t it.
- lqet 5y agoI find this quite convincing: > In one note, the letters of Poste's full name were removed to reveal an alternate message, [Jen Bucholtz, a former Army counterintelligence agent] told Fox News. > "So you've got to know Gary's full name in order to decipher these anagrams," Bucholtz said. "I just don't think there's any other way anybody would have figured it out."
- Pet_Ant 5y agoI want to see the details because there have been some dubious decipherments before that were a real stretch, so I want to see how plausible the ananagram is.
- fullshark 5y agoI don't understand, so they have a deciphered letter from zodiac, they removed the individual letters of Gary's name from the message and got a 2nd message? Is that right?
- celticninja 5y agoI think that one message could not be fully decoded, there seemed to be some cruft in it. My guess is this cruft was no longer in the decoded message once the letters of his name are removed.
- apeace 5y agoThis would indeed be convincing, but I can't seem to find any further information on it. Here is the Case Breaker's blog announcement[1]. And here is a press release from them with some details of their work[2]. I'd really like to see this in action, but it seems like they haven't published it yet. Am I missing it? [1] https://thecasebreakers.org/2021/09/the-last-zodiac-victim/ https://thecasebreakers.org/2021/09/the-last-zodiac-victim/ [2] https://secureservercdn.net/166.62.114.250/g9q.07b.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Zodiac-Killer-Press-release-1-1.pdf https://secureservercdn.net/166.62.114.250/g9q.07b.myftpuplo...
- kelseyfrog 5y ago
- treesknees 5y agoFrom the article > In one note, the letters of Poste's full name were removed to reveal an alternate message, she told Fox News. "So you've got to know Gary's full name in order to decipher these anagrams," Bucholtz said. "I just don't think there's any other way anybody would have figured it out." To me it's pretty coincidental if the letters for this person's full name just happen to be this person who also has other characteristics matching the description including facial scars from one of the police sketches.
- Ansil849 5y ago#1 This is a pretty big claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And yet there is no evidence. -or- #2 It also sounds like they're saying if you remove various letters of the alphabet from a cipher, you can get a readable message. This is not notable.
- random314 5y ago#2 seems very notable
- Amezarak 5y agoThe facial scars in the sketch vs the photo seem like a huge stretch to me personally. It looks like they were just sketching normal forehead lines. And sketches are not exactly reliable in the first place. It really seems like someone desperately looking for a pattern where there isn't one.
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- AlexCoventry 5y agoIt sounds like there's a little bit of presumed Zodiac-Killer DNA on his letters, and there's been some preliminary analysis of it. Hopefully this evidence is suggestive enough to justify a full comparison. https://medium.com/@charlierusso23/why-has-dna-evidence-not-yet-unmasked-the-zodiac-killer-26ed5cac40f3 https://medium.com/@charlierusso23/why-has-dna-evidence-not-...
- itsdrewmiller 5y agoIt's actually the same guy! The fox news video started auto-playing and they introduced their first guest as "Casebreakers head Tom Colbert, who IDed hijacker DB Cooper". So, yeah, I think based on that alone this is likely fake news.
- Ansil849 5y ago> It's actually the same guy! Holy shit! That made my day. I'm assuming he's saving the big reveal that he's bagged Bigfoot for Christmas.
- 8bitsrule 5y agoHe was as tenacious as a bull-dog when he once understood what he had to do, and indeed it was just this tenacity which has brought him to the top.
- etc-hosts 5y agocheck out the press release from "The Case Busters" https://secureservercdn.net/166.62.114.250/g9q.07b.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Zodiac-Killer-Press-release-1-1.pdf https://secureservercdn.net/166.62.114.250/g9q.07b.myftpuplo...