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A good portion of the United States is against any sort of identification system in general. It’s why voting is so complicated. Some kind open income system in

A good portion of the United States is against any sort of identification system in general. It’s why voting is so complicated. Some kind open income system in unfathomable to the vast majority of Americans.

celticninja 5y ago
So are a lot of things that the rest of the world do, but the rest of the world keep on doing them and they work just fine. Almost like the issue isn't the 'thing' being done, but the people.
- zo1 5y ago
  Almost like humans will endure and do anything to just be left alone to live their lives. Just because it "works just fine" doesn't mean it's what people want, nor does it mean that it's the ideal for that set of humans. Hey, here's a thought, let people pick if they want their salary public and attached to them.
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ta1234567890 5y ago
Which is pretty ridiculous given that everyone needs a social security number, and then if you ever want to rent or buy a place you need a credit score. Then if you want to travel abroad you need a passport. And if you use google, social media or a cell phone, or pretty much just anything online, you are going to get tracked. All of these systems and organizations have already identified you, or they’ll easily do it when needed. Not having a universal-nation-wide identification system only makes it worse for everyone.
- bee_rider 5y ago
  It is pretty annoying -- to sign on to the IRS's system you pretty much need an existing debt to some private company (student loans [but not NELNET!], credit card, mortgage, etc). Apparently we can't have a government run identification service so we have to hack one out of random information from private companies.
  - readflaggedcomm 5y ago
    SSNs are issued at birth, not at first draw of credit.
    - bee_rider 5y ago
      SSN is insufficient to get full access to the IRS online account system. Which kinda makes sense given how many data breaches have happened, but it is still annoying.

celticninja 5y ago

So are a lot of things that the rest of the world do, but the rest of the world keep on doing them and they work just fine. Almost like the issue isn't the 'thing' being done, but the people.

zo1 5y ago
Almost like humans will endure and do anything to just be left alone to live their lives. Just because it "works just fine" doesn't mean it's what people want, nor does it mean that it's the ideal for that set of humans. Hey, here's a thought, let people pick if they want their salary public and attached to them.

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ta1234567890 5y ago

Which is pretty ridiculous given that everyone needs a social security number, and then if you ever want to rent or buy a place you need a credit score. Then if you want to travel abroad you need a passport. And if you use google, social media or a cell phone, or pretty much just anything online, you are going to get tracked. All of these systems and organizations have already identified you, or they’ll easily do it when needed. Not having a universal-nation-wide identification system only makes it worse for everyone.

bee_rider 5y ago
It is pretty annoying -- to sign on to the IRS's system you pretty much need an existing debt to some private company (student loans [but not NELNET!], credit card, mortgage, etc). Apparently we can't have a government run identification service so we have to hack one out of random information from private companies.
- readflaggedcomm 5y ago
  SSNs are issued at birth, not at first draw of credit.
  - bee_rider 5y ago
    SSN is insufficient to get full access to the IRS online account system. Which kinda makes sense given how many data breaches have happened, but it is still annoying.