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Someone actually started streaming going through the code ... on twitch. https://www.twitch.tv/deepfrieddev https://www.twitch.tv/deepfrieddev

jedberg 5y ago
Hah. This is like when reddit does something people don't like and there is a huge thread about it ... on reddit.
mawaldne 5y ago
This no longer works. Guy got banned I think.
echelon 5y ago
It just got disconnected. The chat had a few Amazon insiders, which was interesting to read their perspectives.
- treesknees 5y ago
  Any bits you recall from the chat?
Avery3R 5y ago
got banned
Orphis 5y ago
And banned
onnnon 5y ago
Channel is gone, banned?
- jeffalo 5y ago
  Yep, we saw it happen live.
Nickoladze 5y ago
aaaand it's gone
inputError 5y ago
they just got banned as of 10:55 AM October 6, 2021 PDT
CoolGuySteve 5y ago
"Sorry. Unless you’ve got a time machine, that content is unavailable." Too bad, it would be nice to see someone go through and document how Twitch works. I've never worked at "web scale" so I'd probably learn a lot.
- yupper32 5y ago
  > I've never worked at "web scale" so I'd probably learn a lot. As someone who has worked at both large and small companies, you'd probably be disappointed.
  - AustinDev 5y ago
    It's likely lots of bubble gum and chicken wire. I'm sure in the video ingest and transcode side of things there are some really interesting bits though. When you're owned by Amazon you don't need to optimize too much to achieve web scale... just leverage AWS services. It's not like you're going to get a bill.
    - whack 5y ago
      > When you're owned by Amazon you don't need to optimize too much to achieve web scale... just leverage AWS services. It's not like you're going to get a bill. Oh you're be surprised. Divisions get billed constantly for the AWS resources they consume, and this bill gets taken out of their annual budget. From what I hear, this is a common practice in most large organizations. Also, the AWS services you can access from within Amazon are almost identical to the AWS services you can access as an external customer. It's equally easy/hard for a random company to achieve web scale, compared to Twitch.
- peterkos 5y ago
  A lot of it is probably hacked together -- like, embarrassingly hacked together lol
  - dijit 5y ago
    You’re being downvoted for being overly negative, but the ops code is of (literally) shockingly poor quality. This leak has made me understand clearly that code quality is not what makes a product great. I guess that’s something. The jenkinsfiles are mostly nice and clean though. I’ve definitely seen worse of those.
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dolores_ab 5y ago
They were banned for 14 days -- https://www.reddit.com/user/coder_ent/comments/q2q24x/banned_after_streaming_twitch_leaks/ https://www.reddit.com/user/coder_ent/comments/q2q24x/banned...
- Philip-J-Fry 5y ago
  They = you. It's fine to be honest, you're not exactly making it unobvious.
- kuroguro 5y ago
  On one hand I understand why you'd ban that kind of content, on the other it's essentially public information now... what's the point.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
    Because everyone else doing it still doesn't make it right.
    - OnlineGladiator 5y ago
      What's wrong with looking at public code? The code is public, regardless of how it became public - this isn't someone's personal life being exposed. If twitch is damaged by streaming this, it's only because their poor code quality is being examined publicly. I can certainly understand why twitch banned this and don't blame them (although I think it's stupid), but I see nothing unethical about openly talking about this code in the public now that it's already there.
      - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
        > What's wrong with looking at public code? The code is public, regardless of how it became public Copyright would disagree with you, and I would say that ethically it is basically the same as stealing it yourself. You're profiting off of someone else having done the dirty work for you. > this isn't someone's personal life being exposed. Apparently a lot of payment information, telephone numbers, etc. was also in the leak. I don't think we should downloading or encouraging people to download and peruse that stuff.
phgn 5y ago
It is really fun to go through the source code. You'll find interesting architecture diagrams, documentation etc. It's like joining a new job and being amazed how a service you actually use was build. Everyone interested, just download the code :)

jedberg 5y ago

Hah. This is like when reddit does something people don't like and there is a huge thread about it ... on reddit.

mawaldne 5y ago

This no longer works. Guy got banned I think.

echelon 5y ago

It just got disconnected. The chat had a few Amazon insiders, which was interesting to read their perspectives.

treesknees 5y ago
Any bits you recall from the chat?

Avery3R 5y ago

got banned

Orphis 5y ago

And banned

onnnon 5y ago

Channel is gone, banned?

jeffalo 5y ago
Yep, we saw it happen live.

Nickoladze 5y ago

aaaand it's gone

inputError 5y ago

they just got banned as of 10:55 AM October 6, 2021 PDT

CoolGuySteve 5y ago

"Sorry. Unless you’ve got a time machine, that content is unavailable." Too bad, it would be nice to see someone go through and document how Twitch works. I've never worked at "web scale" so I'd probably learn a lot.

yupper32 5y ago
> I've never worked at "web scale" so I'd probably learn a lot. As someone who has worked at both large and small companies, you'd probably be disappointed.
- AustinDev 5y ago
  It's likely lots of bubble gum and chicken wire. I'm sure in the video ingest and transcode side of things there are some really interesting bits though. When you're owned by Amazon you don't need to optimize too much to achieve web scale... just leverage AWS services. It's not like you're going to get a bill.
  - whack 5y ago
    > When you're owned by Amazon you don't need to optimize too much to achieve web scale... just leverage AWS services. It's not like you're going to get a bill. Oh you're be surprised. Divisions get billed constantly for the AWS resources they consume, and this bill gets taken out of their annual budget. From what I hear, this is a common practice in most large organizations. Also, the AWS services you can access from within Amazon are almost identical to the AWS services you can access as an external customer. It's equally easy/hard for a random company to achieve web scale, compared to Twitch.
peterkos 5y ago
A lot of it is probably hacked together -- like, embarrassingly hacked together lol
- dijit 5y ago
  You’re being downvoted for being overly negative, but the ops code is of (literally) shockingly poor quality. This leak has made me understand clearly that code quality is not what makes a product great. I guess that’s something. The jenkinsfiles are mostly nice and clean though. I’ve definitely seen worse of those.

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dolores_ab 5y ago

They were banned for 14 days -- https://www.reddit.com/user/coder_ent/comments/q2q24x/banned_after_streaming_twitch_leaks/ https://www.reddit.com/user/coder_ent/comments/q2q24x/banned...

Philip-J-Fry 5y ago
They = you. It's fine to be honest, you're not exactly making it unobvious.
kuroguro 5y ago
On one hand I understand why you'd ban that kind of content, on the other it's essentially public information now... what's the point.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  Because everyone else doing it still doesn't make it right.
  - OnlineGladiator 5y ago
    What's wrong with looking at public code? The code is public, regardless of how it became public - this isn't someone's personal life being exposed. If twitch is damaged by streaming this, it's only because their poor code quality is being examined publicly. I can certainly understand why twitch banned this and don't blame them (although I think it's stupid), but I see nothing unethical about openly talking about this code in the public now that it's already there.
    - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
      > What's wrong with looking at public code? The code is public, regardless of how it became public Copyright would disagree with you, and I would say that ethically it is basically the same as stealing it yourself. You're profiting off of someone else having done the dirty work for you. > this isn't someone's personal life being exposed. Apparently a lot of payment information, telephone numbers, etc. was also in the leak. I don't think we should downloading or encouraging people to download and peruse that stuff.

phgn 5y ago

It is really fun to go through the source code. You'll find interesting architecture diagrams, documentation etc. It's like joining a new job and being amazed how a service you actually use was build. Everyone interested, just download the code :)