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So hardware/software companies should never be allowed to enter the software services space? Or does your claim only apply to Apple?

lapetitejort 5y ago
I think the point is that hardware manufactures should not close the software door on the way out to market.
simion314 5y ago
Apple should give everyone equal access, no special deals with special companies to access private APIs. If an Apple application can access an API then this API should be accessible to competitors. I am expecting some comment asking about security, the answer is Apple should have the money and talent to handle this(though with latest reveals security needs more attention). Applications can access your clipboard, your files, your photos , you tell the user that say "This Sudoku game wants access to your photos" and the user should answer but it would be even a better experience if the review process would actually work on those dudes won't just complain about links colors and other superficial shit. Imagine your reaction if "Only Microsoft can create antivirus,firewall, browser,VM software for Windows because security and think about my mom)
- oneplane 5y ago
  Depends on the history, doesn't it? If Smart TVs started off with multiple built in browsers and options to even add your own, but now only allow the manufacturer's choice, that would be a problem. But they started off with one option and that was it. None of this is as simple as "everyone gets everything no matter the context or cost".
  - simion314 5y ago
    The reality is that the group can decide that something that was legal before is no longer legal. I don't think there is a need for a new law, existing ones will be sufficient to show that Apple causes harm to consumers and the market. Even in US apple just lost a trail about payments, though it will be appealed I think the days for Apple having a payment monopoly on iOS and not allowing you to show a link to your website to buy directly are numbered. But I expect tsomeone to also claim that is Apple duty to delay that day and make more money for the shareholders.

lapetitejort 5y ago

I think the point is that hardware manufactures should not close the software door on the way out to market.

simion314 5y ago

Apple should give everyone equal access, no special deals with special companies to access private APIs. If an Apple application can access an API then this API should be accessible to competitors. I am expecting some comment asking about security, the answer is Apple should have the money and talent to handle this(though with latest reveals security needs more attention). Applications can access your clipboard, your files, your photos , you tell the user that say "This Sudoku game wants access to your photos" and the user should answer but it would be even a better experience if the review process would actually work on those dudes won't just complain about links colors and other superficial shit. Imagine your reaction if "Only Microsoft can create antivirus,firewall, browser,VM software for Windows because security and think about my mom)

oneplane 5y ago
Depends on the history, doesn't it? If Smart TVs started off with multiple built in browsers and options to even add your own, but now only allow the manufacturer's choice, that would be a problem. But they started off with one option and that was it. None of this is as simple as "everyone gets everything no matter the context or cost".
- simion314 5y ago
  The reality is that the group can decide that something that was legal before is no longer legal. I don't think there is a need for a new law, existing ones will be sufficient to show that Apple causes harm to consumers and the market. Even in US apple just lost a trail about payments, though it will be appealed I think the days for Apple having a payment monopoly on iOS and not allowing you to show a link to your website to buy directly are numbered. But I expect tsomeone to also claim that is Apple duty to delay that day and make more money for the shareholders.