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Maybe if viewed in a cynical way yes. At least when i donate to blue origin i get something tangible delivered to my door. Where is the value exchange in bein

Maybe if viewed in a cynical way yes. At least when i donate to blue origin i get something tangible delivered to my door. Where is the value exchange in being one of 10k people building a faux-relationship with a hot tub streamer?

kdmytro 5y ago
Money transfer does not necessarily mean mutually beneficial transfer of value. Another example of this is theft.
input_sh 5y ago
Same as with paying to see a Disney movie: entertainment. It's just a bit more interactive, since streamers are a bit more likely to interact with you after you give them money.
- MMS21 5y ago
  >since streamers are a bit more likely to interact with you after you give them money ohwee! the streamer might read out your username along with a scripted line after a 5 dollar subscription!1Eleven
  - input_sh 5y ago
    Is there a point you're failing at making? In my mind it's no different than, say, voting for contestants on talent shows, or paying a camgirl, or pay-per-view WWE events. Same thing targeting a different demographic.
meheleventyone 5y ago
I mean it's not cynical (at least not anymore than your initial comment), it's what we're doing and why I used another entertainment option as a point of comparison. Of all the things on Twitch the value of Hot Tub streams seem very upfront and I think it's pretty telling that there are vanishingly few successful streamers doing it and that for all the hot air people spew about its a very niche part of the site.
ohgodplsno 5y ago
> At least when i donate to blue origin i get something tangible delivered to my door. Undelivered promises and lawsuits against NASA to slow down space exploration for all of us ?
Geee 5y ago
It's a service. Service is a product that is consumed when it's produced.
InvOfSmallC 5y ago
I mean, in all honesty it's entertainment. To me Marvel is better but someone prefer hot tubs.
A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago
I think the word you are looking for is entertainment. You may not appreciate the value of said entertainment, but then I don't really see a merit of donkey shows, Kanye or just about any other entertainment figure. That is the value. And by its very nature, it is ephemeral.

kdmytro 5y ago

Money transfer does not necessarily mean mutually beneficial transfer of value. Another example of this is theft.

input_sh 5y ago

Same as with paying to see a Disney movie: entertainment. It's just a bit more interactive, since streamers are a bit more likely to interact with you after you give them money.

MMS21 5y ago
>since streamers are a bit more likely to interact with you after you give them money ohwee! the streamer might read out your username along with a scripted line after a 5 dollar subscription!1Eleven
- input_sh 5y ago
  Is there a point you're failing at making? In my mind it's no different than, say, voting for contestants on talent shows, or paying a camgirl, or pay-per-view WWE events. Same thing targeting a different demographic.

meheleventyone 5y ago

I mean it's not cynical (at least not anymore than your initial comment), it's what we're doing and why I used another entertainment option as a point of comparison. Of all the things on Twitch the value of Hot Tub streams seem very upfront and I think it's pretty telling that there are vanishingly few successful streamers doing it and that for all the hot air people spew about its a very niche part of the site.

ohgodplsno 5y ago

> At least when i donate to blue origin i get something tangible delivered to my door. Undelivered promises and lawsuits against NASA to slow down space exploration for all of us ?

Geee 5y ago

It's a service. Service is a product that is consumed when it's produced.

InvOfSmallC 5y ago

I mean, in all honesty it's entertainment. To me Marvel is better but someone prefer hot tubs.

A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago

I think the word you are looking for is entertainment. You may not appreciate the value of said entertainment, but then I don't really see a merit of donkey shows, Kanye or just about any other entertainment figure. That is the value. And by its very nature, it is ephemeral.