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Increases in Covid-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination (int'l and U.S.)
- Arnt 5y agoThis appears to agree with n earlier analyses: The vaccines don't protect against passing on the disease. The unvaccinated are going to have a hard winter where I live. There are many unvaccinated here. The vaccinated (a considerable majority) are protected and many of them won't even notice the disease, but they're not protected against infecting the unvaccinated. When winter comes and people stop meeting outdoors, the virus will thrive.
- nanis 5y agoSo, are you saying that it is agreed that the vaccine creates a bunch of very effective Typhoid Marys[1] in contrast to, say, measles or smallpox vaccines? If that's the case, what happened to "you must get vaccinated to protect those around you?" Are you confident in your schadenfreude given the trend of increasing rate of hospitalizations and deaths from COVID19 among the "fully" vaccinated? I put that in quotes because the meaning of "fully" does a lot of work in the stats I have seen. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28003932 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28003932 [2]: https://www.covid2020.icu/vaccine-breakthrough/ https://www.covid2020.icu/vaccine-breakthrough/
- Arnt 5y agoSchadenfreude, me? I'm sad about it. It's a predictable problem. But no matter how anyone feels about it, the vaccines does what they do. It's a pity that they only protect those who get vaccinated, it would have been better if everyone were protected, but that's still a lot better than protecting noone. I think you should probably look at other statistics. Pay attention to the difference between "hospitalisations per capita" and "hospitalisations per infectee". The latter has dropped to match vaccinations here, the former has gone up and down. People know that the risk of going dancing has dropped by 90%, so they go dancing.