Yeah, the advantage of these is when you don't have the depth _behind_ the drywall you need to poke through one of the toggles, or even the tip of one of the se

Yeah, the advantage of these is when you don't have the depth _behind_ the drywall you need to poke through one of the toggles, or even the tip of one of the self-drilling anchors. I'm just dreading ever taking my shelf down.