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This result seems to tie in with the mounting evidence of a link between diet and mind health. Specifically insulin response, which improves with fasting. E.g.

This result seems to tie in with the mounting evidence of a link between diet and mind health. Specifically insulin response, which improves with fasting. E.g. Some scientists now calling Alzheimers Type 3 diabetes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_3_diabetes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_3_diabetes According to two books I just finished, Lifespan and Why We Get Sick, even an 18 hour fast (skipping breakfast) is enough to see possitive improvements. Partly due to the dawn phenomenon, where our glucose and insulin rises with dawn and peaks around breakfast time, making breakfast the most dangerous meal, if your goal is avoiding fat storage.

hoseja 5y ago
I swear there's like two dozen "causes" for Alzheimer's.
tdaltonc 5y ago
> breakfast the most dangerous meal, if your goal is avoiding fat storage. That's counter to the evidence. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6658129/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6658129/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5990470/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5990470/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3756673/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3756673/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25724569/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25724569/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23512957/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23512957/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9040548/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9040548/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26948400/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26948400/ I recommend that most people skip breakfast because it's the easiest way for most people to fit a fasting window in around their work schedule. However, if you have more flexibility, it looks like there's a marginal benefit for body composition and metabolic fitness to having your eating window in the morning.
- irthomasthomas 5y ago
  I scanned them but I dont see which of these studies are testing the dawn phenomenon? Which is what I am talking about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_phenomenon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_phenomenon
  - tdaltonc 5y ago
    The "dawn phenomenon" (predictable early morning hormone and blood glucose changes) is definitely a thing. But the implication/interpretation that therefore morning/breakfast is the most dangerous time to eat, is wrong. Those papers directly test that hypothetical implication.

hoseja 5y ago

I swear there's like two dozen "causes" for Alzheimer's.

tdaltonc 5y ago

> breakfast the most dangerous meal, if your goal is avoiding fat storage. That's counter to the evidence. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6658129/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6658129/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5990470/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5990470/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3756673/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3756673/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25724569/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25724569/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23512957/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23512957/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9040548/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9040548/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26948400/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26948400/ I recommend that most people skip breakfast because it's the easiest way for most people to fit a fasting window in around their work schedule. However, if you have more flexibility, it looks like there's a marginal benefit for body composition and metabolic fitness to having your eating window in the morning.

irthomasthomas 5y ago
I scanned them but I dont see which of these studies are testing the dawn phenomenon? Which is what I am talking about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_phenomenon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_phenomenon
- tdaltonc 5y ago
  The "dawn phenomenon" (predictable early morning hormone and blood glucose changes) is definitely a thing. But the implication/interpretation that therefore morning/breakfast is the most dangerous time to eat, is wrong. Those papers directly test that hypothetical implication.