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> Apparently he was a terrible person. :shrug: Why do I care? I learnt a lot from him and never had to deal with his shit. Do my heroes have to be saints? I fi

> Apparently he was a terrible person. :shrug: Why do I care? I learnt a lot from him and never had to deal with his shit. Do my heroes have to be saints? I find it curious that you seem to think that treating people with decency and respect is the realm of saints. That's a horrifically low bar. What you've expressed is in my opinion one of the most detrimental sentiments in Silicon Valley (and sadly much of society) today. If you're brilliant, rich, talented, etc., the expectations for how you treat others drop immensely. Behaviors that would be considered severe character flaws in the less successful and admired are tolerated and brushed aside as the quirks of "complex" geniuses. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

omot 5y ago
> That’s a horrifically low bar. That was an expression. I didn’t mean it literally. In a modern workplace treating people with decency and respect is a must. If you’re experiencing toxicity from “brilliant jerks” consider escalating to HR. Definitely the most under used resource at work. I think the dialogue around workplace and mental health has evolved significantly over the last 10 years. I don’t condone Steve Jobs’ style in the 2020s moving forward. The world moved past it already and the “next Steve Jobs” I hope will recognize people’s need for psychological safety to work effectively.
- LurkingPenguin 5y ago
  > If you’re experiencing toxicity from “brilliant jerks” consider escalating to HR. How do you do that when the brilliant jerk is the person who owns and runs the company, or is otherwise widely considered critical to the organization's success? "Yeah, Barry can come off as a jerk but don't misread it. He's eccentric and between you and me, I think he's on the spectrum, but he's harmless. The investors love him and the launch of Magic X last year was a game changer for the company. At this rate we'll be going public in 2 years and it's all going to pay off. You can retire in Fiji." > I don’t condone Steve Jobs’ style in the 2020s moving forward. This is a different sentiment than "Why do I care?" I wasn't even speaking specifically about Steve Jobs. The behavior we're talking about didn't just become unethical recently. Just because people have a somewhat better ability to call it out and not be buried these days doesn't mean it wasn't as despicable and unethical then as it is now, and that it wasn't known to be such a decade or three ago.

omot 5y ago

> That’s a horrifically low bar. That was an expression. I didn’t mean it literally. In a modern workplace treating people with decency and respect is a must. If you’re experiencing toxicity from “brilliant jerks” consider escalating to HR. Definitely the most under used resource at work. I think the dialogue around workplace and mental health has evolved significantly over the last 10 years. I don’t condone Steve Jobs’ style in the 2020s moving forward. The world moved past it already and the “next Steve Jobs” I hope will recognize people’s need for psychological safety to work effectively.

LurkingPenguin 5y ago
> If you’re experiencing toxicity from “brilliant jerks” consider escalating to HR. How do you do that when the brilliant jerk is the person who owns and runs the company, or is otherwise widely considered critical to the organization's success? "Yeah, Barry can come off as a jerk but don't misread it. He's eccentric and between you and me, I think he's on the spectrum, but he's harmless. The investors love him and the launch of Magic X last year was a game changer for the company. At this rate we'll be going public in 2 years and it's all going to pay off. You can retire in Fiji." > I don’t condone Steve Jobs’ style in the 2020s moving forward. This is a different sentiment than "Why do I care?" I wasn't even speaking specifically about Steve Jobs. The behavior we're talking about didn't just become unethical recently. Just because people have a somewhat better ability to call it out and not be buried these days doesn't mean it wasn't as despicable and unethical then as it is now, and that it wasn't known to be such a decade or three ago.