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This was my favorite: “If we wanted to ignore research, why would we create an industry-leading research program to understand these important issues in the fi

This was my favorite: “If we wanted to ignore research, why would we create an industry-leading research program to understand these important issues in the first place”

lmkg 5y ago
"The best way to predict the future is to create it."
decebalus1 5y ago
He should ask the tobacco industry or the oil industry. History rhymes.
cratermoon 5y ago
Same reason the tobacco industry created research programs to look at the health effects of smoking. Neither their nor Facebook's research could ever be mistaken of "industry-leading", though.
- umvi 5y ago
  Yeah but in Big Tobacco's case they made sure the research reflected their products favorably. Why would Facebook create research programs that have outcomes unfavorable to their core product?
  - cratermoon 5y ago
    They didn't. That's my point.
  - monocasa 5y ago
    Big tobacco's _published_ research reflected their product favorably. Maybe a better example is oil, where because of legal issues we were able to peer into unpublished research as the public. They indisputably knew about anthropomorphic climate change back in at least the early 80s and continued to push policies to the contrary because otherwise was against their bottom line. They just used their research in order to understand what was coming and create propaganda ahead of the curve.
  - legel 5y ago
    The same reason you go to the doctor's to check if you have cancer. You make better decisions with more intelligence, even when it's "bad news".
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sky_rw 5y ago
"If I supposedly murdered my wife, why would I put a $1mm bounty on finding the killer?"
gorbachev 5y ago
I can't believe his PR handlers let that get out. As someone else said in the comments already, today's testimony wasn't about whether or not Facebook does research, it was about them hiding the results when they didn't support whatever drivel FB marketing puts out about changing the world for the good of all mankind. This is so incredibly on brand for Zuckerberg (and Sandberg). This sort of gaslighting FUD is exactly what they always do when they get caught lying. They just lie more.
- lsiq 5y ago
  Let's not forget Zuckerberg called his users "dumb f*cks." But, we're supposed to believe his contempt is gone and he cares now. If anything his arrogance is probably far higher nowadays than it was before because he has so much power.
reducesuffering 5y ago
“We’ve investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing.” What more could you want?

This was my favorite: “If we wanted to ignore research, why would we create an industry-leading research program to understand these important issues in the first place”

lmkg 5y ago

"The best way to predict the future is to create it."

decebalus1 5y ago

He should ask the tobacco industry or the oil industry. History rhymes.

cratermoon 5y ago

Same reason the tobacco industry created research programs to look at the health effects of smoking. Neither their nor Facebook's research could ever be mistaken of "industry-leading", though.

umvi 5y ago
Yeah but in Big Tobacco's case they made sure the research reflected their products favorably. Why would Facebook create research programs that have outcomes unfavorable to their core product?
- cratermoon 5y ago
  They didn't. That's my point.
- monocasa 5y ago
  Big tobacco's _published_ research reflected their product favorably. Maybe a better example is oil, where because of legal issues we were able to peer into unpublished research as the public. They indisputably knew about anthropomorphic climate change back in at least the early 80s and continued to push policies to the contrary because otherwise was against their bottom line. They just used their research in order to understand what was coming and create propaganda ahead of the curve.
- legel 5y ago
  The same reason you go to the doctor's to check if you have cancer. You make better decisions with more intelligence, even when it's "bad news".

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sky_rw 5y ago

"If I supposedly murdered my wife, why would I put a $1mm bounty on finding the killer?"

gorbachev 5y ago

I can't believe his PR handlers let that get out. As someone else said in the comments already, today's testimony wasn't about whether or not Facebook does research, it was about them hiding the results when they didn't support whatever drivel FB marketing puts out about changing the world for the good of all mankind. This is so incredibly on brand for Zuckerberg (and Sandberg). This sort of gaslighting FUD is exactly what they always do when they get caught lying. They just lie more.

lsiq 5y ago
Let's not forget Zuckerberg called his users "dumb f*cks." But, we're supposed to believe his contempt is gone and he cares now. If anything his arrogance is probably far higher nowadays than it was before because he has so much power.

reducesuffering 5y ago

“We’ve investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing.” What more could you want?